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Global Benchrest Association? - Harry Jones 1000yd Memorial Range

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Dusty Stevens said:
Go to a PRS match if you dont think benchrest needs a change. Look and see how many sign up for just a club match
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Our monthly local PRS matches has to cap the # of personnel shooting to 60 each match (so they can make it through the day) and they are always full. Great money maker for our club. The cost to get into PRS (equipment, loading stuff, etc) is likely about the same as BR.
 
Jet said:
Our monthly local PRS matches has to cap the # of personnel shooting to 60 each match (so they can make it through the day) and they are always full. Great money maker for our club. The cost to get into PRS (equipment, loading stuff, etc) is likely about the same as BR.
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That is excellent,sounds like they have it figured ...exactly what the shooting sports need right now . It's a struggle to keep everyone happy,and with the internet these days it's easy to fight and argue...much safer than face to face so things get to a feverish pitch and words are spoken that would probably not be spoken in person.
 
Jet said:
Our monthly local PRS matches has to cap the # of personnel shooting to 60 each match (so they can make it through the day) and they are always full. Great money maker for our club. The cost to get into PRS (equipment, loading stuff, etc) is likely about the same as BR.
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I don't know if the cost are the same, at a BR match when you hear them talking the main topic seems to be what they have invested in the rifle. But never do you hear much more on anything about accuracy, small groups loading or components. They soon find out they are not completive at BR. as we old farts can't run around and play their game..... jim
 
johara1 said:
I don't know if the cost are the same, at a BR match when you hear them talking the main topic seems to be what they have invested in the rifle. But never do you hear much more on anything about accuracy, small groups loading or components. They soon find out they are not completive at BR. as we old farts can't run around and play their game..... jim
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Not true I have assisted with 6 chassis PRS rifles and easily obtained 3in 5 shot groups at a thousand. This was with 6xc, Dasher, 6.5 x 47
 
As a rule a high end PRS rifle will cost more than a high end BR rifle. The optics alone in that game ad a grand or more to the optics we use. Theres a reason theres so many tactical rifle builders out there, its where the money is at and every one in the industry knows it, even all of our favorite BR manufactures are building "tactical" actions, stocks, optics, ext. Cost is not the issue. Its the work to fun aspect. You can shoot PRS and have a lot of fun with a rifle you dont have to have tuned to perfection. Different games that will attract totally different kinds of people.
Growing the sport of Br is always a topic, but doing without diluting the sport is key IMO.
 
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I have a builder in my area that says he starts a new build every Monday,
PRS is a huge part of his workload.
 
Alex Wheeler said:
As a rule a high end PRS rifle will cost more than a high end BR rifle. The optics alone in that game ad a grand or more to the optics we use. Theres a reason theres so many tactical rifle builders out there, its where the money is at and every one in the industry knows it, even all of our favorite BR manufactures are building "tactical" actions, stocks, optics, ext. Cost is not the issue. Its the work to fun aspect. You can shoot PRS and have a lot of fun with a rifle you dont have to have tuned to perfection. Different games that will attract totally different kinds of people.
Growing the sport of Br is always a topic, but doing without diluting the sport is key IMO.
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It took me a bit to convince them but a PRS rifle needs to be tuned as good as a bench gun. Otherwise your wind calls are just luck.
 
One Shot One Thrill said:
It took me a bit to convince them but a PRS rifle needs to be tuned as good as a bench gun. Otherwise your wind calls are just luck.
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While it may be true that PRS guys are in search of that 2" 10X ten shot group at 1,000 yards and their target scoring area can be, and usually is, more than two MOA at that distance success at scoring on targets is more difficult for PRS shooters to achieve. I've rarely seen a PRS shooter score ten out of ten on a stage. But in all fairness they never shoot all ten at the same target or the same distance and time constraints are much tighter than with LR BR. More than not their demands are further increased by the physical side of the game. What if you had to shoot at your 1,000 yard paper target while positioned on a rooftop with no front rest or even bipod? How would you fare? Oh, throw in the fact that when time begins for a PRS shooter he must take his most solid position, load his rifle, determine where and how far each target is and try to make all his ten hits in a time of 90 seconds to 2 minutes. There is NO sighter period allowed.
All this to say that one discipline should not be compared to the other. Ultimately success or failure are determined by many factors unique to each game.
 
Shoot4fun I do believe that if a PRS shooter had one of our fine tuned 1000 yard Benchrest rifles, he would be right on top of the win list! If I were 50 years younger I would love to try that game.
But I guess I'll have to stay with the OLD MANS Game.

Joe Salt
 
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Joe Salt said:
Shoot4fun I do believe that if a PRS shooter had one of our fine tuned 1000 yard Benchrest rifles, he would be right on top of the win list! If I were 50 years younger I would love to try that game.
But I guess I'll have to stay with the OLD MANS Game.

Joe Salt
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Joe,
It's the age thing that has me too. I've done a fair amount of RO'ing for PRS matches run by some of my friends but I just don't think I'm "built" for the game.
The other side of this is that, while we may think our equipment list evolves, the PRS gear list changes from match to match. The sport is growing and spreading like a CA wildfire. With it come the "innovators" (read those that push the limit of the rules) by adding the use of differently shaped bags and the like. Also, right now the carbon fiber video style tripods used in conjunction with the ARCA Swiss rail system seem to be all the rage and have been incorporated into many match stage designs. I don't know if you ever played the USPSA game (I did in a huge way) but PRS has become the new playground for the USPSA jocks and rule benders. Oh, and the "best" of the rifles is a spinning wheel. The PRS guys (not all but many) change complete rifles as quickly as we change a barrel on our BAT.
 
All this make my head hurt. I just wanna shoot my 5 or 10 shots or what ever the range master tells me, DQ and get my ice cream and go eat dinner with all my buddies after I call them "Jack Asses" for making me pay more attention to my table manners.

As one gets older, this stuff "doesn't mean a thang". Make an effort to agree to disagree and move along and smell the roses as "this to shall pass".

My .02¢

DJ
 
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