6mm Rem

[Cade]

Getting ready to load 100 Norm 6mm Rem cases and was wondering how heavy a bullet can I get by with. The rifle is a Rem 700 with I believe is a 9-9 1/4 twist 22" Barrel. I have some Horndy 103 ELD X and Berger 105 VLD Hunting plus various others in the 50 to 100 gn weight. I know the best way to find out is to load some of each and shoot them which I will probably do but thought I would ask here for your experience also. Will most likely be used for hunting deer and antelope and small varmints but also might toy with some long distance shooting say out to 7-800 yds.
what say you!
thanks

 

[gme]

http://www.bergerbullets.com/twist-rate-calculator/

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Stick with 80 grainers and below for best accuracy. Could go with a 95-100 NON VLD for hunting

 

[Knotwild]

I hunt some with a 6mm Remington in a Remington 660. I think it is a 9 twist and it shoots best with 100gr bullets. I just picked a load with IMR4350 that worked with 100 grain bullets that grouped better than the lighter bullets. I was using Sierra and Nosler with good results for a factory rifle.

I have not tried the longer, heavier, or VLD bullets in it because I am dealing with a short barrel. Most of the time I just get lazy and buy Federal factory ammunition, which works fine for what I use it for.

 

[GSPV]

It ain't the weight, it's the length. A VLD of 100 grains will be much longer than a traditional flatbase of 100 grains. Similar for solid copper bullets.

Of course, *other things equal* a heavier bullet *is* a longer bullet. Just pointing out where other things are *not* equal.

 

[Rsadams]

In my 600 we have killed alot of the small S. Texas white tails with the 85gr but it will also shoot 100gr well... Never went any higher than 100gr... Like the 85s in it alot , but every factory rounds I run across are 100 these days... The 6mm REM is one reason I started reloading.. Love that caliber and rifle...

 

[Mikemci]

Mine likes 100 gr. Nosler Partitions. Could not get decent groups with Hornady bullets.

 

[GSPV]

Getting right to the point, your barrel isn’t going to be happy with the 10X grain boat tail bullets. You need 1:8 twist to stabilize them.

I’ve shot a dump truck full of varmints and deer using the Sierra 85 grain HPBT. It’s a versatile bullet. For bigger game the Nosler 95 grain partition is great. Any of the 100 grain soft point flat base are great too.

 

[AckleymanII]

Cade, I have had a few of the exact same rifles you have. We hunted large deer in Nebraska and coyotes all over the West and Mexico with the 6 Rem.

For coyotes, we used a couple of different loads:

60g Sierra with 50g of Win 760, Win case, Fed 210 primer, seat the bullet to touch the lands if possible, 4000 fps and tiny groups. Work up a load starting at 49g and go up in .3g increments.

80g Sierra Bt Blitz, 42g of IMR 4064, fed 210, win case, 3500 fps. Mack Daddy coyote and chuck load, groups in the 3/8" area in a tuned rifle. You can get 3600 fps with accuracy using Superperformance powder as per my hunting buddy, I am sticking with IMR 4064.

85g Sierra BTHp, 38.5g of H4895, Win case, Fed 210, touch the lands, 3150 fps, not a hot load, very, very accurate.

85g Speer BTSP, Close to max load for the gun of IMR 4831, REm 9 1/2, touch the lands with the bullet, this is a deer bullet, NOT a varmint bullet, tougher than the 85g Sierra. Clobbered Ok large white tails.

85g non tipped tripple shock, start at 44.5g of R#19 and work up in .3g increments, Jump the bullet .050 from the lands, use a WLR primer, velocity will be 3450+. I shot a doe in the azz going away from me at 100 yards, broke a shoulder, bullet was under the hide on the right front shoulder.

95g Nosler parititon, Max load of IMR 4831, Rem 9 1/2, 3150 fps, 5/8" group, kills 260 lb white tails at 300 yards like an anvil fell on them, will completely penetrate frontal quartering shots, break shoulders, and exit rib cage on the off side, innards are shreaded...massive shock. Never shot a deer more than one shot with this load on large Kansas white tails to 350 yards. 95g partitions has been more accurate than 100g in my rifles.

A friend in Az hunted with the 105g Hornady BTHP with a hot load of IMR 4350 in his 700. I never tried this load but I saw him shoot it at the range. This is the load that I would use for longer range. He used this bullet on Mule deer and coyotes.

I am on my second 6 Rem reamer. I have the reamer cut with zero freebore then use a unithroater for desired length freebore. That long neck will hold a lot of bullet. No doubt in my mind that the long neck adds to barrel life vs a 243.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Cade, I have had a few of the exact same rifles you have. We hunted large deer in Nebraska and coyotes all over the West and Mexico with the 6 Rem.

For coyotes, we used a couple of different loads:

60g Sierra with 50g of Win 760, Win case, Fed 210 primer, seat the bullet to touch the lands if possible, 4000 fps and tiny groups. Work up a load starting at 49g and go up in .3g increments.

80g Sierra Bt Blitz, 42g of IMR 4064, fed 210, win case, 3500 fps. Mack Daddy coyote and chuck load, groups in the 3/8" area in a tuned rifle. You can get 3600 fps with accuracy using Superperformance powder as per my hunting buddy, I am sticking with IMR 4064.

85g Sierra BTHp, 38.5g of H4895, Win case, Fed 210, touch the lands, 3150 fps, not a hot load, very, very accurate.

85g Speer BTSP, Close to max load for the gun of IMR 4831, REm 9 1/2, touch the lands with the bullet, this is a deer bullet, NOT a varmint bullet, tougher than the 85g Sierra. Clobbered Ok large white tails.

85g non tipped tripple shock, start at 44.5g of R#19 and work up in .3g increments, Jump the bullet .050 from the lands, use a WLR primer, velocity will be 3450+. I shot a doe in the azz going away from me at 100 yards, broke a shoulder, bullet was under the hide on the right front shoulder.

95g Nosler parititon, Max load of IMR 4831, Rem 9 1/2, 3150 fps, 5/8" group, kills 260 lb white tails at 300 yards like an anvil fell on them, will completely penetrate frontal quartering shots, break shoulders, and exit rib cage on the off side, innards are shreaded...massive shock. Never shot a deer more than one shot with this load on large Kansas white tails to 350 yards. 95g partitions has been more accurate than 100g in my rifles.

A friend in Az hunted with the 105g Hornady BTHP with a hot load of IMR 4350 in his 700. I never tried this load but I saw him shoot it at the range. This is the load that I would use for longer range. He used this bullet on Mule deer and coyotes.

I am on my second 6 Rem reamer. I have the reamer cut with zero freebore than use a unithroater for desired length freebore. That long neck will hold a lot of bullet. No doubt in my mind that the long neck adds to barrel life vs a 243.

Ill second the barrel life and the superformance powder with mid weight bullets. Ive seen a few deer a buddys daughter shot with one of my 6mm rems loaded with 80?(85 maybe) sierra game kings and superformance. Thats the only cartridge ive ever found it to work in actually but i keep a lot of it now for that reason

 

[jaygorski]

Getting ready to load 100 Nosler 6mm Rem cases and was wondering how heavy a bullet can I get by with. The rifle is a Rem 700 with I believe is a 9-9 1/4 twist 22" Barrel. I have some Horndy 103 ELD X and Berger 105 VLD Hunting plus various others in the 50 to 100 gn weight. I know the best way to find out is to load some of each and shoot them which I will probably do but thought I would ask here for your experience also. Will most likely be used for hunting deer and antelope and small varmints but also might toy with some long distance shooting say out to 7-800 yds.
what say you!
thanks

I used to shoot Hybrids in my 6mmREM, it had a 1:9&1/8" twist, shot it out to 600yds with no issues.

 

[Cade]

I used to shoot Hybrids in my 6mmREM, it had a 1:9&1/8" twist, shot it out to 600yds with no issues.

What weight hybrids??

 

[jaygorski]

What weight hybrids??

I thought there was only one weight in the 6mm class, 105 silly.

 

[Plumsask]

Getting ready to load 100 Nosler 6mm Rem cases and was wondering how heavy a bullet can I get by with. The rifle is a Rem 700 with I believe is a 9-9 1/4 twist 22" Barrel. I have some Horndy 103 ELD X and Berger 105 VLD Hunting plus various others in the 50 to 100 gn weight. I know the best way to find out is to load some of each and shoot them which I will probably do but thought I would ask here for your experience also. Will most likely be used for hunting deer and antelope and small varmints but also might toy with some long distance shooting say out to 7-800 yds.
what say you!
thanks

Just curious wher and when you were a Ken to get nosler 6mm rem brass? Is it old stock?

 

[Cade]

Just curious wher and when you were a Ken to get nosler 6mm rem brass? Is it old stock?

It was old stock and some was still new in the box. One of the Herter's box was priced at $2.19 should tell you something.

 

[RonS]

Gentlemen, how much freebore should a factory 6mm Rem have? I was asked to develop a load for a friend's Remington 742 and if I load a round to touch the lands and grooves the cartridge is too long for the magazine. Would you say the throat is eroded considerably or is this normal for a semi auto rifle?

Ron

 

[Hoot]

Gentlemen, how much freebore should a factory 6mm Rem have? I was asked to develop a load for a friend's Remington 742 and if I load a round to touch the lands and grooves the cartridge is too long for the magazine. Would you say the throat is eroded considerably or is this normal for a semi auto rifle?

Ron

Ron;

I've worked on my share of 742's and 7400's for friends and co-workers in several calibers. They all had "roomy" freebores. I'm guessing to accommodate even the old school round nose bullets you still see in circulation. It doesn't surprise me to hear that you can go beyond the magazine length when loading spire points to the lands. Heck, I have two Browning BAR's that are the same way.

Hoot

 

[Mikemci]

Gentlemen, how much freebore should a factory 6mm Rem have? I was asked to develop a load for a friend's Remington 742 and if I load a round to touch the lands and grooves the cartridge is too long for the magazine. Would you say the throat is eroded considerably or is this normal for a semi auto rifle?

Ron

I have found that to be the case with my Rem. 700 6mm. Luckily, my best groups are .070" off the lands with Nosler Partition 100 gr. bullets and .090" off with Sierra Gameking 85 gr. I started at .010" off and worked my way back.

 

[RonS]

Hoot, this gun will not group under 3” at 100 yards with factory ammo or handliads. I have tried several of the fore mentioned powders in this thread, the best powder I’ve used with the tightest groups is 38.0gr of IMR4320 and the 100gr Sierra SP seated to a COL of 2.870” with a distance of 0.165” left to the lands and grooves. Would you call that “roomy” or excessive? Plus the muzzle looks a bit worn or battered.

 

[RonS]

Mikemci, I take it yours is a bolt gun which would be easier to single load. I normally start 0.010” off the lands in my bolt gun but this ol’relic even with the mag inserted, the bolt will not lock open. So I started at SAMMI spec and worked my way out to the lands