What do you mean no Registration. Also would my coaches who are big gun guys and know a lot about laws be helpful. They seem to know all the legalities.
AR pistol rules
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What do you mean no Registration. Also would my coaches who are big gun guys and know a lot about laws be helpful. They seem to know all the legalities.
shortgrass
Silver $$ Contributor
Please fella',,, gimme a break, an AR can be assembled by a monkey! It's "assembly", and nothing more! You're not fine tuning and hand fitting the parts into an English double!
The secondparsei completely agree with that's why my coaches are helping me they work within the firearms industry and know how to do that part. I'm buying parts and putting them into the gun. I'm sorry I'm new to this so I have some questions from knowledgeable people like you guys.
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
Forget the 80%. Youre not going to learn a single thing about how an ar works more than you can learn by assembling an ar from a reciever. You can buy a complete rifle for under $400 legally. Grab one up and learn how to install a parts kit into it and youll know exactly the same amount as 99% of the ar builders out there right now.
Well now that we know you’re 17, you can’t purchase any firearm. It has to be gifted to you. I still don’t think an AR is a good first rifle. If you have mentors, and they will assist you, you can get an nice AR, complete, for about $600 when you turn 18. You can tinker with it and take it apart at your liking.
I'm turning 18 in January
It's an AR pistol build I can't rrallr buy one I don't know I'm interested in building one just for shits and grins. I can buy a jp rifle. Anyways how old do you have to be to buy a barrel shorter than 16 inches?
shortgrass
Silver $$ Contributor
If you can change a flat (tire), you can 'build' an AR.
I believe 21 for an SBR. Don’t quote me on that. Not a lawyer, im an engineer. I just know it’s a lot of paper work, time, and money to get one. All my ARs are long range rigs, and I have one .300BO for hunting swamps of Georgia and hitting steel. I’m not really a fan of pistols. I just don’t want to see you get in trouble. You could by a lesser quality AR when you turn 18 and get some trigger time and once you’re comfortable with it do a complete rebuild. That’s probably the safest route and then when you’re 21 you can do your pistol build.
ronemus
Gold $$ Contributor
There is no need for a muzzle device except in very special circumstances. Rather than buy a 14.5' barrel and adding a 3" muzzle device, just get a 16" barrel - it's a rifle and then you don't have the legal hassles with a SBR or pistol. The Tacticool crowd goes gaga over SBRs and pistols, but they have their limitations.
If you want to hunt hogs the .223 is marginal - you're more likely to wound than kill unless you're a very good shot. For the use you describe you would be better with an AR-10 in one of the .308 family of calibers; I prefer the 7-08, but that would be difficult to find except as a custom build. AR-10s in .308 are plentiful and relatively inexpensive. If you're recoil averse, a muzzle brake may be needed; functional brakes are considerably shorter than 3" so a 16" barrel would still meet your needs.
Definitely do not do an AR-10 as a first build; there are many incompatibilities between the various flavors on the market. You should be moderately experienced before you attempt an AR-10.
Keith Glasscock
Gold $$ Contributor
Whatever you do, do not even attempt to obtain a "handgun" or "pistol" prior to your 21st birthday. Building, buying, or getting it through some other means is not in your best interest.
When you turn 18, get yourself a rifle. I'd recommend a repeater bolt-action. Learn your firearms safety rules until they become an automatic part of you. Learn your marksmanship fundamentals and practice them regularly.
I know you are excited about being able to hunt and shoot. Do that with responsible adults who own the firearms while you are waiting to turn the next age.
Never, ever, take a chance on breaking the law. Learn everything you can about the firearms laws and get good legal counsel when something isn't spelled out in black and white.
Being a law-abiding citizen of this country isn't cheap, it isn't easy, and it isn't convenient. It is a responsibility that each and every one of us holds as a duty. Embrace it.
When you turn 18, get yourself a rifle. I'd recommend a repeater bolt-action. Learn your firearms safety rules until they become an automatic part of you. Learn your marksmanship fundamentals and practice them regularly.
I know you are excited about being able to hunt and shoot. Do that with responsible adults who own the firearms while you are waiting to turn the next age.
Never, ever, take a chance on breaking the law. Learn everything you can about the firearms laws and get good legal counsel when something isn't spelled out in black and white.
Being a law-abiding citizen of this country isn't cheap, it isn't easy, and it isn't convenient. It is a responsibility that each and every one of us holds as a duty. Embrace it.
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dellet
Gold $$ Contributor
https://www.atf.gov/questions-and-a...8-and-21-years-age-acquire-handgun-unlicensed“atf” said:
“atf” said:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-individual-need-license-make-firearm-personal-use
There is no federal law against a person aged 18-21, from owning or buying a pistol. It can not be transferred interstate, a licensed dealer is not allowed to sell to an individual under 21.
Even form 1, NFA items maybe manufactured, with the qualification being that the person making the firearm is not a prohibited person. A form one is actually what you would use to convert a rifle to a pistol.
If the OP is not a federally prohibited person, and there are no state or local laws violated, he may aquire a pistol any way except from a federally licensed dealer.
A quick email to ATF would be answered in a couple days to clear up any questions. They are actually very helpful.
There is a whole lot that goes in to building an AR, even if just assembling one. Proper staking of the castle nut is the most over looked, staking the gas key is often not adequate. Gas Timing, Gas port size, buffer weights, etc. Its a much more involved task then just snapping together legos.
shortgrass
Silver $$ Contributor
He is talking about assembling a LOWER. Staking the gas key and sizing/drilling the gas port in the barrel has little to do with that! It ain't brain surgery by any stretch of the imagination!
He wants to build an 80% and do everything from scratch... He is not talking about buying a finished lower and dropping a parts kit into it (staking the castle nut still applies here).
In general, AR's are not all that simple. They are, in my opinion, more complicated then a Bolt Gun. A lot more things to take in to account.
It is not something I would recommend to someone with no prior experience working on firearms.
Machining an 80% especially.
People tend to over simplify AR's, I'm simply trying to explain that they aren't so simple.
Seriously, ask your parents to buy you a lower for your Birthday/Christmas.
The issue at the moment isn’t him building one. It’s if an AR is a good first rifle for him and if he’s legally allowed to own an AR pistol or SBR at 18 in Arizona.
Which has already been addressed.
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