Warner tool company

[butchlambert]

My Warner die. It is a work of art! The fit and finish are just superb.

 

[dkhunt14]

I'm curious, and could't seem to find the answer on Warner's website so maybe someone who owns one of these dies can chime in.

Will these dies work in a standard 7/8 14 press, as the website says the press must accept 1-1/4 12 (or is this only for the magnum die?)?

Do these allow the use of neck bushings to control neck tension?

The die uses the big threads. You take the insert out of your press. You can buy different size bushings. You can also use a bushing about .002 smaller then you need and use a mandrel to control tension. That is a good way because it evens out neck tension. Matt

 

[JRS]

I'm curious, and could't seem to find the answer on Warner's website so maybe someone who owns one of these dies can chime in.

Will these dies work in a standard 7/8 14 press, as the website says the press must accept 1-1/4 12 (or is this only for the magnum die?)?

Do these allow the use of neck bushings to control neck tension?

A standard 7/8-14 press won't accept the die. A standard neck bushing will not work. You receive a set of inserts with the die to fit your fired brass. The insert on the top controls the neck diameter and sizes the neck all the way to the neck-shoulder junction.

 

[Bart B.]

If you're insistent your barrel's bore and chamber plus your bullets' dimensions be made to 4 or 5 decimal places, why not the case sizing die, too?

 

[josh shrum]

Thanks for the replies everyone.

 

[steve123]

I'm curious, and could't seem to find the answer on Warner's website so maybe someone who owns one of these dies can chime in.

Will these dies work in a standard 7/8 14 press, as the website says the press must accept 1-1/4 12 (or is this only for the magnum die?)?

Do these allow the use of neck bushings to control neck tension?

I like my Warner die, it's all that.

Though some things really pissed me off!

I called them up to have a 20 cal wildcat done up and found out they don't do anything less than 22 cal. Well that was part of the reason I bought the die to begin with! Furthermore you have to buy a new die if you want to use a longer cartridge than the one die you have already for a shorter case. So there you go, !@#$%, if this had been explained to begin with I wouldn't have bought this die at all. Fortunately these dies had just came out so I only paid $375.

Too me it would have been good business to make a overly long die body from the onset to accommodate most cartridges, so all one must do is order the sizing inserts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[steve123]

I like my Warner die, it's all that.

Though some things really pissed me off!

I called them up to have a 20 cal wildcat done up and found out they don't do anything less than 22 cal. Well that was part of the reason I bought the die to begin with! Furthermore you have to buy a new die if you want to use a longer cartridge than the one die you have already for a shorter case. So there you go, !@#$%, if this had been explained to begin with I wouldn't have bought this die at all. Fortunately these dies had just came out so I only paid $375.

Too me it would have been good business to make a overly long die body from the onset to accommodate most cartridges, so all one must do is order the sizing inserts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And if every other die maker can make 17 and 20 cal dies why can't Warner with his superior machinery and skill???!!!

 

[Phil]

I called them up to have a 20 cal wildcat done up and found out they don't do anything less than 22 cal. QUOTE]


I was under the impression that 6mm was the smallest they go................

Is .22 the new small for them?????

 

[Preacher]

I like my Warner die, it's all that.

Though some things really pissed me off!

I called them up to have a 20 cal wildcat done up and found out they don't do anything less than 22 cal. Well that was part of the reason I bought the die to begin with! Furthermore you have to buy a new die if you want to use a longer cartridge than the one die you have already for a shorter case. So there you go, !@#$%, if this had been explained to begin with I wouldn't have bought this die at all. Fortunately these dies had just came out so I only paid $375.

Too me it would have been good business to make a overly long die body from the onset to accommodate most cartridges, so all one must do is order the sizing inserts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't believe they even do 22 calibers.
Even 6's may be a problem...
They do make 3 different size bodys.
Just had them make me new neck- shoulder bushings for my new 25 SAUM IMP..
I do use the 6.5 SAUM IMP body for it..

 

[Alan Warner]

Both standard and magnum housings are 1.25-12, the 50cal is 1.5-12. We do not make any dies with 7/8-14 threads. Simply not big enough to accommodate the inserts. It is indeed an insert style system that allows for controllable neck tension. I should add that in addition to controllable head space, we also guarantee 0.0002 run out or better.

 

[Regnar]

Both standard and magnum housings are 1.25-12, the 50cal is 1.5-12. We do not make any dies with 7/8-14 threads. Simply not big enough to accommodate the inserts. It is indeed an insert style system that allows for controllable neck tension. I should add that in addition to controllable head space, we also guarantee 0.0002 run out or better.

Hey Alan, I live in Raymond. woukd it be ok to stop by your shop sometime just to see it?

 

[JRS]

I like my Warner die, it's all that.

Though some things really pissed me off!

I called them up to have a 20 cal wildcat done up and found out they don't do anything less than 22 cal. Well that was part of the reason I bought the die to begin with! Furthermore you have to buy a new die if you want to use a longer cartridge than the one die you have already for a shorter case. So there you go, !@#$%, if this had been explained to begin with I wouldn't have bought this die at all. Fortunately these dies had just came out so I only paid $375.

Too me it would have been good business to make a overly long die body from the onset to accommodate most cartridges, so all one must do is order the sizing inserts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe the standard die will handle up to 30-06 length.

 

[Preacher]

I believe the standard die will handle up to 30-06 length.

That is true !!!!!!

 

[steve123]

The is true !!!!!!

Whatever the case is, because it's been many years since I bought the die, all I know is I ordered the die assuming I could buy inserts for at least the common cartridge lengths and every time I call to buy inserts the answer is no.

I hope if when I go from 6x47 to 6BRA the answer will be yes this time!!!

 

[Preacher]

They did make my 243 SLR insert and bushings a few years ago, so not 100 % sure if they still do 6 mm stuff or not..

 

[josh shrum]

Does anyone know what the inserts cost if changing cartridges?

 

[Preacher]

Does anyone know what the inserts cost if changing cartridges?

Last I knew they were $50.00, possibly they have gone to $75.00, I never asked for sure.
I just need them.., even for the additional $25.00, if they have increased.............

 

[josh shrum]

In the long run this seems like the way to go for me. Now I just need to get some fired cases...

 

[Alan Warner]

So the smallest we make is 6mm. We grind the inserts between centers on a tight fitting arbor. We do not have enough rigidity in an arbor that is smaller than what is needed for the 6mm; hence the tooling prevents us from making neck/shoulder bushings for the 22 to the tolerances we need. Most know by now that if the end result is less than perfect, we won't offer it for sale. Until we can get a hold of some unobtanium to make arbors out of, this is how it will be. That is why we do not make anything smaller than 6mm.
The reason for the multiple size ranges, I think should be simple to understand; it is not practical to make inserts for the larger possible housing to work the smallest possible caliber. Your 6 Dasher would look funny running in a 50 cal doe housing. We separate them based on length and practicality so that we can better control inventory. We will not make inserts for a small caliber to fit in a larger housing, period. Otherwise, when you call us later requesting additional inserts, we won't have any idea what housing they need to fit in. We have been up front about these size ranges from the start; it has never been a secret. So; anything 6 Dasher in length up to and including a 30-06 fits in the standard housing. Above 30-06 up to and including 416 Rigby fits in our magnum housing. And of course, we have the 50cal for the 50 based cases.
I should point out that standard shell holders work for the standard size cases. However, off the shelf magnum shell holders do not contact the magnum die properly, so we sell the appropriate WTC made magnum shell holder with the magnum die.

 

[josh shrum]

Thanks for the info Mr. Warner!