Savage switch barrel

[Rick300]

I just bought a model 12 F/TR in .308 and I would like to try and make it a multi purpose gun by having extra barrels for it in different calibers. Has anyone seen or heard of the switch barrel system by LPR Gunsmiths (http://www.lprgunsmith.com/lpr_switch_rifle.htm)? It sounds like it would work well, but why haven't I seen or heard of anyone doing it?
According to Larry, you simply un-screw the barrel and screw the new one on in just a few minutes. No taking the scope off or the action out. Sounds good, but I can't find any info on other people who have done it.
Any thoughts?

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

All shouldered (as opposed to nutted) barrels work this way. Every benchrest shooter on the planet changes barrels in minutes with just a barrel vise and an action wrench.

 

[6MMsteve]

you can do it, just do away with the nut, have your gunsmith measure the tenon and take off, but do away with the nut and it takes just a couple minutes, get some custom ground recoil lugs that are ground all the same exact size and your in business, that's how I would do it unless I missed something

 

[Richard Coody]

much simpler than that. your barrel nut is your barrel shoulder. simply install and headspace your barrel with the barrel nut. put an index line on nut and barrel. then locktite the barrel nut to the barrel. you will have to inlet your stock where there is room to unscrew the barrel and barrel nut out of the receiver. no need to headspace again. you can switch barrels just like the pro's.

 

[Taildrag15X]

I just bought a model 12 F/TR in .308 and I would like to try and make it a multi purpose gun by having extra barrels for it in different calibers. Has anyone seen or heard of the switch barrel system by LPR Gunsmiths (http://www.lprgunsmith.com/lpr_switch_rifle.htm)? It sounds like it would work well, but why haven't I seen or heard of anyone doing it?
According to Larry, you simply un-screw the barrel and screw the new one on in just a few minutes. No taking the scope off or the action out. Sounds good, but I can't find any info on other people who have done it.
Any thoughts?

Rick300 I know Larry and his work, he's built a few Palma Rifles for me over the years and one had the system you are asking about. I caught the bug after watching Larry compete with his set up, using 3 different barrels during an 800, 900, 1000 yd Palma Match, it was amazing.

I think Larry never overly promoted his idea on the quick swap barrel system, like most long range competitors, Palma Team members, gunsmiths, fathers,etc time is a short commodity. The internet has brought a new world of instant gratification to the world, every ones ideas and products can be shared around the world in seconds, when I first meet Larry I think gas was $0.70/gal and US Postage was $0.20 and he hated talking on the phone.

I enjoyed the nut less system, pined lug, easy to swap, when built I had a .308 Win. and 2-.30-06 Springfield barrel made, he made a couple of replacement barrels before I switched back to XTC.

 

[Rick300]

I think Larry never overly promoted his idea on the quick swap barrel system

That must be the case as I think it would be a more popular system. After watching the videos Toby posted, I am thinking not to have the flats machined into the muzzle and just use a barrel vice. I really don't have a need to switch barrels in the field (I think).

 

[1slingshot]

Your scope will have to be removed to get to the barrel nut, loosen it then the barrel should turn off DONT locktite anything if you want to be able to remove the barrel later on done it several times, can buy a wrench or use a 1-1/4 boxed end wrench with 2 allen wrenches put in slot on barrel nut

 

[Rick300]

Your scope will have to be removed to get to the barrel nut

That's the whole point of Larry's system - do away with the barrel nut so the scope doesn't have to be removed. He told me that the windage on the scope should be very close and minor elevation changes for a different caliber.

 

[kris bassett]

Easy button!

https://www.americanrifle.com/product/barloc-barrel-quick-change-device-for-1-063-x-20tpi-thread/

 

[normmatzen]

I started shooting long range bench rest with a Savage PTA, a used stock and a Shilen pre-fit barrel. The first barrel change was to a non-nut barrel and I have not looked back. I have a number of barrels for this gun as well as my newer 7mm version. Both are using non-nut barrels and they are indeed easier and quicker to change than a barrel nut system. And, I do use a barrel vice which I C-clamp onto a work bench or I could clamp it to the bench at the range. I have a home made action wrench also and switching barrels is a couple minute job!

 

[Nobody]

My MPA chassis is a switch lug. It’s made by West Texas Ordinance: https://westtexordnance.com/switchlug/

Same idea: no nut, indexed, thread-on barrel. It does change the POI switching barrels, but it’s highly consistent. Takes me about three minutes to switch.

Honestly, I bought it because I don’t have multiple match rifles and if a barrel lets go in the middle of the season I don’t want to have to send it off or wait to get rebarreled. I want to switch and run.

 

[Nobody]

My MPA chassis is a switch lug. It’s made by West Texas Ordinance: https://westtexordnance.com/switchlug/

Same idea: no nut, indexed, thread-on barrel. It does change the POI switching barrels, but it’s highly consistent. Takes me about three minutes to switch.

 

[urbanrifleman]

I switch barrel with the nut. I never touch a wrench once the headspace is set. Simply add red loctite to the nut (and not near the action) and headspace as normal. The next day the nut is your shoulder. Simple. Works like a charm. I pinned my lug on my action and I don't even remove the stock. I just use a Davidson action wrench and a barrel fixture and change barrels in about three minutes.

There are several Remage threads in this forum in the last few weeks that discuss this in detail.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Easy button!

https://www.americanrifle.com/product/barloc-barrel-quick-change-device-for-1-063-x-20tpi-thread/

Yup, ARC has a system.

 

[Kimber.204]

I just received the BARLOC system from American Rifle Company and installed a Savage barrel on my Bighorn action. It's a great system.

One of the things that Larry Racine told me when I spoke to him is that you will need to pay attention to your threads because you will essentially wear out the threads on your action if you are swapping barrels a lot. What he meant is that the thread tolerance will open up a little bit and make the fit a little more sloppy, so you may have to tighten the barrel more that you did when it was new. But plenty of folks swap barrels often and never have an issue.

My question is do you Savage guys, (@Dgd6mm @dmoran I'm looking at you) free float the barrel nut? You can respond to my question at the thread linked below.....

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...ths-do-you-free-float-the-barrel-nut.3948430/

Let me know,
Thanks.
Ross