Savage extractors

[Someoldguy]

So. I have been having problems with extraction on my Savage model 12 .223. While removing the extractor to inspect it, well let's just say the term exploded view applies. The spring stayed in the bolt, and I found the ball, and while I know the extractor is in the gun room SOMEWHERE, it's exact location remains elusive.

My question is, are the model 10/110 and model 12 extractors the same? And this rifle has a low round count, so does anyone make a better extractor?

Thanks for looking.

 

[hpshooter]

" well let's just say the term exploded view applies. The spring stayed in the bolt, and I found the ball, and while I know the extractor is in the gun room SOMEWHERE"



One gallon Ziploc (or any other such transparent poly bag) bags are indispensable when disassembling spring loaded mechanisms. Work inside of them to catch launched components.

 

[Someoldguy]

" well let's just say the term exploded view applies. The spring stayed in the bolt, and I found the ball, and while I know the extractor is in the gun room SOMEWHERE"



One gallon Ziploc (or any other such transparent poly bag) bags are indispensable when disassembling spring loaded mechanisms. Work inside of them to catch launched components.

Yeah, and I knew that. Let's just chalk it up to 'temporary insanity', please?

 

[Terry]

Sharp Shooter Supply is said to have a better one.

 

[jdh47]

They ought to sell Savages without the extractor and let you upgrade from the first.

Joe

 

[Someoldguy]

Sharp Shooter Supply is said to have a better one.

I've read as much, too. I was hoping someone could tell me if they had a positive experience with this, or any other, replacement. I'd prefer to do this once, if possible. Thanks for the reply.

 

[GrocMax]

Never had an issue with a factory one myself. If it is a situation where it doesn't grab enough of the rim, one thing that helps is to use an oversized ball. Go one step larger diameter and stay under the hole diameter. Can't remember off the top of my head but want to say either 9/64" or 5/32" from 1/8". With the small ball the extractor will slide over easily and not put much tension back into the rim.

 

[rayjay]

You can also carefully detail all the parts and the related sliding surfaces.

 

[rayjay]

It's also cheap and easy to have spares on hand if you are going to do a lot of shooting and/or matches.

 

[dskogman]

223 is a different size so make sure you get the right one

 

[teele1]

The extractor Midway sells works as well. You might want to use a .140 inch extractor detent ball also.

 

[Someoldguy]

223 is a different size so make sure you get the right one

Can anyone tell me if the .223 extractor is the same for a model 10/110 bolt face and a model 12 bolt face?

 

[GrocMax]

The OEM extractor is one Savage P/N fits all calibers, it has changed appearance over the years but it ain't caliber specific. Midway used to sell OEM Savage parts. If they are now selling aftermarket extractors its news to me.

 

[Someoldguy]

The OEM extractor is one Savage P/N fits all calibers, it has changed appearance over the years but it ain't caliber specific. Midway used to sell OEM Savage parts. If they are now selling aftermarket extractors its news to me.

OK. Thank you VERY much. I couldn't imagine the extractors were different, but I'm not a Savage expert, which is why I asked here. Thanks again.

 

[GrocMax]

Yeah teele1 jogged my memory, it is a 9/64" or .140" ball. A good hardware store should have some. Try your local Ace. This helps in some cases, sometimes the small ball doesn't let it force enough of the lip over the rim of the case. Try the 1/8" ball first, then the .140", see if it makes a difference.

 

[BillPa]

OK. Thank you VERY much. I couldn't imagine the extractors were different, but I'm not a Savage expert, which is why I asked here. Thanks again.

I can't say for current production but the extractor of the 204-223 was-is longer from the ball detent to the outside. If they're used with a.47x" rim they'll contact the inside of the receiver when they jump the rim. The .47x extractors can be used for the 204-223.
Also check the ejector.

If its like the one on the right replace it with the one of the new style on the right with the follower (tail). You should also install a new spring togethe. Both the new style ejector and spring are available directly from Savage parts. It also advisable to replace the extractor .125" detent ball with a .140".
Another thing to look for is a sharp corner on the forward corner of the lug race.

It tends to grab a case and rip it out of the extractor. As as matter of SOP I knock both the top and bottom off whenever I have a barrel removed. It doesn't take much. Some say it can be reached with a flat needle file through the port but I haven't tried.
Other than my 3 brass pickers all my Savages(16) with those mods extract-eject flawlessly.
Bill

 

[Someoldguy]

Lots of good information here, thanks very much!