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CFE223 with an AR-15

I noticed some powders don't seem to work well in some rifles. My .308 would not group well with IMR4166 no matter what I tried. I got the CFE223 powder to make defensive rounds using Lehigh 55g Controlled Chaos bullets. They are .900" long so limits the powder charge, especially in standard magazine length rounds. In a standard 16" 5.56 chamber I chronographed those at an average of 3,050 fps.

So I tried to work up a fast load for longer range for a .223 Wylde upper (free floated) with an 18" barrel. It doesn't seem to like the powder. I used 75g Hornady BTHP bullets set at 2.260" which is about .010" off the lands. I experimented with the powder charge before and they will run loaded hot without any pressure issues. Never chronographed yet because of the windy conditions. So I wanted to see how they will group. Hornady's manual list a maximum load at 24.9 grains with a COL of 2.250"

This is embarrassing and funny at the same time. I fired these at 100 yards off a bench. It was a little breezy, but not bad, 3-7 mph. I started with a clean cold barrel and fired 5 rounds of 62g (upper left) loaded with Varget just to foul the barrel and warm it. These were never worked up, just an initial load. Then the CFE223. These were loaded to within .02 grain and to .001" COL. The first 5 were a pattern, not a group. My 18" cylinder bore shotgun with #00 buck will do that well at 30 yards. Each 2/10 grain reduction in powder reduced the group size. By the time the group started coming together, the powder charge was reduced to the point where Varget would probably have more velocity. My other upper, a 16" 5.56 NATO non-floated, will usually group better than the best here at an average of 1-1/4" - 1-3/8 using 69 grain SMK's with 25.3 grains of Varget and a COL of 2.300". I'm going to chronograph these and try some other loads and powders when the rains pass and the mud dries.
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What is the twist on the barrel? I have had good results with CFE223 in a bolt rifle using Hornady 50 gr bullets. I am working on a
load for my ARs. I will share the load when I get there. I haven't had much luck with 62 gr bullets with several powders, and have
never used 75 gr bullets.
 
What is the twist on the barrel? I have had good results with CFE223 in a bolt rifle using Hornady 50 gr bullets. I am working on a
load for my ARs. I will share the load when I get there. I haven't had much luck with 62 gr bullets with several powders, and have
never used 75 gr bullets.
It's a 1/7 Palmetto Wylde upper. I'm just playing with it now but I thought it would be better than this. I have several different bullets and powders to play with. Something will shoot well in it. This AR is free floated, has a muzzle break, the upper is fitted tight to the lower, and it has a 3-3/4 lb trigger.

Here is my best group with 10 shots from 100 yards with my 1/8 twist 5.56 chambered 16" barrel upper and it's not free floated. This was using 25.3g Varget with Sierra 69g M/K's with a COL of 2.300" Normally the groups are a little larger than this, up to 1-1/2" without the flier. I haven't tried these in the Wylde upper yet.
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One thing about a PSA upper is that you don't really know who made the barrel. With that said, I have one of the 16" PSA stainless 1/9 uppers that I free floated and it shoots great with Benchmark and 55 grain Varmageddons. When I was working that load up, the groups tightened when I increased the distance to the lands (shortened COAL).
 
I have a RRA 16" r4 flat top with the railed gas block. I got great accuracy with the cfe223 using the 55g nbt. It also did great using h4895 and the 65g sgk and the 69g smk. I did notice that my most accurate loads were just a bit over book starting loads. Usally .5 over.
 
One thing about a PSA upper is that you don't really know who made the barrel. With that said, I have one of the 16" PSA stainless 1/9 uppers that I free floated and it shoots great with Benchmark and 55 grain Varmageddons. When I was working that load up, the groups tightened when I increased the distance to the lands (shortened COAL).
Do you have a 5.56 NATO chamber? I run my COL out to 2.300" and still have probably .100" jump with the PSA NATO upper. The Korean H&K knockoff mags will allow you to seat the bullets longer.
 

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