Help with top 10-20 causes of death in US

[snert]

I would like to see the non slanted deaths per thousand caused by damn alcohol. I would bet it is 20 times what we have skewed into gun deaths.

I can tell you it was a day to put on the calendar and mark up with a red pen when I went a whole day on the job and did not have every call involve a drunk or a result of a drunk. And despite that, we saw how well intentioned prohibition worked.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm

Heart disease: 614,348
• Cancer: 591,699
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,101
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 136,053
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 133,103
• Alzheimer's disease: 93,541
• Diabetes: 76,488
• Influenza and pneumonia: 55,227
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 48,146
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 42,773

No problem just get the democrats and the RINO's to outlaw these things.

 

[walt willis]

Heart disease: 614,348
• Cancer: 591,699
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,101
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 136,053
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 133,103
• Alzheimer's disease: 93,541
• Diabetes: 76,488
• Influenza and pneumonia: 55,227
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 48,146
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 42,773

No problem just get the democrats and the RINO's to outlaw these things.

Democide is the name of the game and climb to absolute power. They must first remove the guns before they can commit Democide.
They are some sick puppies in the world that hate people and our way of life?

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Democide is the name of the game and climb to absolute power. They must first remove the guns before they can commit Democide.
They are some sick puppies in the world that hate people and our way of life?

They call them Democrats now they used to call them Nazi's.

 

[JLT]

Did you notice the assault/homicide rate for the District of Columbia? 14.7 per 100,000 population in 2014. That's nearing three times the national average. In a place of smothering anti-gun sentiment and a legislative/statutory environment as antagonistic to the private ownership of firearms as any other.

 

[seymour fish]

Oops.......... the medical guys "accidentally" forgot to include medical errors in their chart. Imagine that!
Medical errors are the third leading cause of death related to medical situations, about a quarter of a million folks per year, or about half the current cancer rate of death. Of course, this data doesn't address car wrecks and non medical deaths.

Medical errors should be divided into Pre and Post Obummacare. What passes for a full complete physical exam nowadays wouldn't qualify as a gross viability check in the good old days

 

[seymour fish]

+2..... This is the truth........ Doctors cause more death in U.S. than any other thing..................

Next time you have a heart attack, stroke, cut your pecker off, etc, show some principle. Stay home. Don't call for help. Don't scream like a schoolboy. Just sit there reading more worthless govt statistics until......

 

[jds holler]

Next time you have a heart attack, stroke, cut your pecker off, etc, show some principle. Stay home. Don't call for help. Don't scream like a schoolboy. Just sit there reading more worthless govt statistics until......

Yeah, I'm a little skeptical about the "doctor caused/medical mistake" statistics. I think that when something goes wrong, folks just love to blame someone else. "The doctors killed him" accusation gets thrown around a lot whether the case is a drunk driving crash, or a fifty year smoker. I'm sure there is mistakes and malpractice out there, but too often the guy who tries to save the perp or patient such as the case may be, gets blamed for losing a difficult battle. jd

 

[jdh47]

I must agree with germanlongbow.

Any human can make a mistake but I will put our medical system up against any other in the world. We have fine health care. We just have mentally challanged bureaucrats and an unscrupulous legal system manipulating it. You'd be surprised how low costs would be for healthcare if you actually let the professionals make decisions based on medical opinion rather than the threat of legal reprercussions.

Joe

 

[spclark]

Also recently read in several places that the U.S. murder rate is at a 51 year low.

Except for Chicago of course....

 

[normmatzen]

Medical mis-adventure caused 98,000 deaths in 2004. That puts in between Stroke and Alzheimers.
Where is gun deaths? Accidental plus intentional is around 6,000 per year with homicides about 2/3 of that.This is low enough that a lot of charts don't include it.
But, most charts don't have a listing for Medical Mis-adventure so they put the actual cause of physical death in the charts but not the real cause being someone F****d up!

 

[spclark]

http://heyjackass.com/

https://www.thetrace.org/2017/01/chicago-not-most-dangerous-city-america/amp/

Yet I like the observation:

"A December report by the Brennan Center for Justice, a left-leaning think tank, found that Chicago single-handedly accounted for nearly half of the 14 percent increase in homicides observed in the nation’s 30 largest cities."

 

[DickE]

Now if we could get Chicago and Detroit fixed.

 

[ireload2]

I have worked in health care too. Doctors and the industry make a lot of mistakes that kill people.
One of my former employers manufactured a lot of knee and hip implants contaminated with an oil film.
They switched to an inadequate cleaning process that left the oil on the parts. The implants never bonded properly to the bone resulting in many thousands of loose implants. The resulting class action law suit resulted in a settlement of $1 Billion. The company only had $750 million in insurance so the patients and lawyers wound up owning the company.

I work in health care. Have for almost 25 years. People are quick to blame healthcare/doctors for issues that have more to do with personal choices than healthcare mistakes. Fact is we eat, drink, smoke, and fail to take our health more of our own responsbiiity. Some fat lazy people smoke and drink themselves to heart failure, lung cancer and morbid obesity. They come in for a procedure and something bad happens. Blame the hospitals and staff. But don't take any responsibility for their poor life style choices. Now throw in a couple money hungry lawyers who care nothing about reality. Everyone suffers in the end. Common sense and morals no longer drive people to work hard or take pride in their jobs. Not trying to start any arguments. People just need to take some responsibility for themselves. We all know guns dont kill people and forks don't make people obese. It takes a person to make a choice, right or wrong for things to happen.

 

[shortgrass]

The governor of Virginia says we have 93,000,000 (that is 93 million) gun related deaths per day! What's the population of the U.S.? 325,000,000?

 

[mmcu]

I have worked in health care too. Doctors and the industry make a lot of mistakes that kill people.
One of my former employers manufactured a lot of knee and hip implants contaminated with an oil film.
They switched to an inadequate cleaning process that left the oil on the parts. The implants never bonded properly to the bone resulting in many thousands of loose implants. The resulting class action law suit resulted in a settlement of $1 Billion. The company only had $750 million in insurance so the patients and lawyers wound up owning the company.

Ex Sulzer employee I presume?

 

[ireload2]

yes

Ex Sulzer employee I presume?

 

[seymour fish]

Medical mis-adventure caused 98,000 deaths in 2004. That puts in between Stroke and Alzheimers.
Where is gun deaths? Accidental plus intentional is around 6,000 per year with homicides about 2/3 of that.This is low enough that a lot of charts don't include it.
But, most charts don't have a listing for Medical Mis-adventure so they put the actual cause of physical death in the charts but not the real cause being someone F****d up!

Norm, your blind acceptance of a " statistic" is laughably naive. Consider: 1980, affirmative action began watering down the quality of medical school admissions. By 2004 Texas was giving medical licenses to 12,000 Pakistani doctors per year at the behest of the insurance company-owned HMO's, where they could provide medical care largely in name only. Same timeframe, the US opened the floodgates to nurses from Nigeria and the Philippines, who spoke broken English at best. The WallStreet Journal lamented that only a tiny fraction of our best and brightest chose medicine as a career. It became almost impossible for doctors on a quality assurance committe to throw a murderously incompetent doctor off a hospital staff as far back as 1975, if the hospital saw him as a profit-center. Today insurance companies order doctors to kick patients out of the hospital too soon, or else. This destruction has been intentional, and wildly profitable. It is blood-money. These are merely some of the high points; the big picture is much worse. Who F____d up, the old US born doc ? Not so much. The past president of United Health built his empire on two planks: screw the patients and screw the doctors. His criminality bit him in the ass when he back-dated 1.2 Billion dollars worth of stock options. This is a matter of public record. Fascinating to learn who his chief lawyer was. The current health care system is unhealthy and does not "care", being rotten from the very top. You might advise me to buy a Krueger, bartlein, etc. I advise you to hire a physician born no later than 1955 if you can find one. As to Homicide, are you curious as to what percentage is drug/gang related ? Seymour

 

[seymour fish]

Norm, your blind acceptance of a " statistic" is laughably naive. Consider: 1980, affirmative action began watering down the quality of medical school admissions. By 2004 Texas was giving medical licenses to 12,000 Pakistani doctors per year at the behest of the insurance company-owned HMO's, where they could provide medical care largely in name only. Same timeframe, the US opened the floodgates to nurses from Nigeria and the Philippines, who spoke broken English at best. The WallStreet Journal lamented that only a tiny fraction of our best and brightest chose medicine as a career. It became almost impossible for doctors on a quality assurance committe to throw a murderously incompetent doctor off a hospital staff as far back as 1975, if the hospital saw him as a profit-center. Today insurance companies order doctors to kick patients out of the hospital too soon, or else. This destruction has been intentional, and wildly profitable. It is blood-money. These are merely some of the high points; the big picture is much worse. Who F____d up, the old US born doc ? Not so much. The past president of United Health built his empire on two planks: screw the patients and screw the doctors. His criminality bit him in the ass when he back-dated 1.2 Billion dollars worth of stock options. This is a matter of public record. Fascinating to learn who his chief lawyer was. The current health care system is unhealthy and does not "care", being rotten from the very top. You might advise me to buy a Krueger, bartlein, etc. I advise you to hire a physician born no later than 1955 if you can find one. As to Homicide, are you curious as to what percentage is drug/gang related ? Seymour

Norm, forgot to mention, consider the Source of statistics. Is there a govt job guy, a lobbyist, an insurance company, a lawyer, a Medicare puke, a politician with an angle involved ? Ask yourself who benefits. Rant off Seymour

 

[Ned Ludd]

According to one source that has compiled this year's CDC figures (http://www.romans322.com/daily-death-rate-statistics.php), the number of alcohol-related deaths so far this year (45,903) is about ten times greater than the number of deaths associated with firearms (5276). The number of tobacco-related deaths (is more than 30 times greater. You will never see the gun grabbers trying to completely remove your access to alcohol and tobacco, which arguably serve no better purpose than recreational shooting, for two reasons: 1) they make money from your use of these products that can be used to further their agenda and 2) history shows us that prohibition is unlikely to be successful.

At this point if you still wish to continue your discussion with this individual, ask them their thoughts about the effect of limiting mag capacity in black rifles, so-called assault weapons. They will most assuredly tell you they think this is a great idea. Unfortunately, handguns are overwhelmingly responsible for the majority of gun injuries and deaths in the U.S. Deaths/injuries from black rifles make up only a small percentage of the total. The Dems are not interested in saving lives...they are interested in removing your access to firearms.