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260 Remington - Hornandy Brass Review

dstoenner

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When I saw that Hornandy was going to make 260 REM ammo, I knew that brass was probably not far behind. When I got into 260 for F-Class, I bought some Remington made brass and 100 Lapua. I found the Lapua to be just great as always but Remington started having case and neck splits after a couple of loadings. Then came the great shortage of 2008 onward. I managed to get another 100 Lapua but 260 was scarce. I did get some Nosler which has been in between Lapua and Remington brass.

Finally I found some Hornady. I ordered 2 packages of 50 and they were from the same lot when I received them. I did all of my normal brass prep but this time I paid attention to how the group of 100 acted. The following are my observations for what they are worth.

1) Primer pocket reaming. All finished off to a nice uniform pocket with no extra low spots like Remington had shown. This was just like both batches of Lapua and Nosler, no extra low spots.

2) Then I wanted to neck turn them so I took all 100 and first expanded the necks to .264 to get any bulges in the brass to the outside of the neck. Then I set my neck turner to where at one point I wasn't taking any brass off and then went to .0005 tighter. They then cleaned up most of the necks to about 50% or so. I would rather have a little thicker necks than thin necks that were perfectly uniform. Out of the 100, I had one case that did not touch the cutter and one case whose neck that was 1000% turned.

3) Now I did a full case resize with a Redding .010 shell holder in place and a .286 busing for the neck. This gave me a .260 inside neck, implying my neck was now .013.

At this point I put them in my case cleaner to get all the oil and lubricant off of them.

4) Now I checked for case length and found they needed to be trimmed. It wasn't much. One case I did measure .005 longer than my trim length but at least the necks are now square. Only 2 cases did not touch the trimmer being short.

5) Now came the acid test. I sorted the lot of 100 by weight. I have attached pictures for you to look at. The case weight extremes went from 155.1 to 161.4 grains. It also showed two nodes of cases weights. My guess is that they had 2 machines running with the output mixed?? Using my rule of 2 gn variance for a given batch I was able to get a set of 69 from 156.5 to 158.7 and 27 from 159.0 to 161.1 That left 4 culls. Lapua had 4 culls for one lot of 100 and 2 for the other. The difference was that the Lapua was all within 1.5 gns for the entire rest of the batches.

Now the proof will be in loading up some and testing them. That maybe some time in the future before I can report on that part of the test.

I did a sample test for runout on 5 cases and all 5 were .001 or less TIR. I have hopes these will be as good or better than Nosler and maybe as good as Lapua. They beat Remington hands down at virtually the same price as Remington.

David







 
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Last summer I purchase some Hornady cases in 223 Rem. First I liked the fact that their were no defective cases, i.e. cold shunts, split necks, etc. My lot was a little over sized which I thought was strange. I full sized them with a slight cam over of the shell holder then check them to make sure they would feed. I did my normal case prep, trim, uniform the pockets, debur the flash hole.

On the range they performed as well or if not better than my previous reloads with Rem and Win cases. I found nothing lacking in them and I'm up to 12 reloads. I should state that I'm not a competitive target shooter; I'm a long range varmint and predator hunter so my standards may not be as high as others but I've been satisfied with Hornday case so far.
 
Last summer I purchase some Hornady cases in 223 Rem. First I liked the fact that their were no defective cases, i.e. cold shunts, split necks, etc. My lot was a little over sized which I thought was strange. I full sized them with a slight cam over of the shell holder then check them to make sure they would feed. I did my normal case prep, trim, uniform the pockets, debur the flash hole.

On the range they performed as well or if not better than my previous reloads with Rem and Win cases. I found nothing lacking in them and I'm up to 12 reloads. I should state that I'm not a competitive target shooter; I'm a long range varmint and predator hunter so my standards may not be as high as others but I've been satisfied with Hornday case so far.
K22,

I have other Hornandy brass that I have used. I have 223, 308 and 30-06. The 223 is better than LC brass but still not the quality of Lapua or Nosler. 308 was good but I have used it up. The 30-06 is strange. the necks are very thin to the point that they do not touch the sizing button on a full size none bushing die. In my 1903 Springfield they shoot very good.

But like you have seen, I think in general Hornandy is a good value for the money.

David
 
Update from last nights post. I had already planned for a range day with my 260 in order to get my scope zero'd after I have changed rings. So I hurried up this morning to load up the 27 pieces of batch #2 case weight. I always sort my ammo by seated runout. Of these 27 I got:

4 = .001
4 = .002
18=.003
1=.004

For virgin brass, that is a good mix and the fact that I only had 1 over .003 hints that these maybe really good.

Now to see how they do on paper at 100 yards.


David
 
260lapua.jpg If people are interested in a comparison with Lapua .260Rem cases in terms of weight distribution, this is 500 cases sorted by weight, all new from one lot. Weight range 171.6 to 173.0 so a 1.4 grain variance less if you ignore that one outlier.
 
If people are interested in a comparison with Lapua .260Rem cases in terms of weight distribution, this is 500 cases sorted by weight, all new from one lot. Weight range 171.6 to 173.0 so a 1.4 grain variance less if you ignore that one outlier.

That has been exactly my experience with both Lapua and Nosler that a given box is going to be 98% all in 1 gn of each other. Even Lapua has some outliers but very few. Your 1 represents .2% which is awesome.

Thanks for sharing.

David
 
That has been exactly my experience with both Lapua and Nosler that a given box is going to be 98% all in 1 gn of each other. Even Lapua has some outliers but very few. Your 1 represents .2% which is awesome.

Thanks for sharing.

David

No sweat! Some people think Lapua is absolutely perfect which is not true. The reality is it is impossible for any manufacturer to make perfect brass and have it still affordable. Weight wise, Lapua is pretty good but what I really like about it is neck thickness consistency which although again not being perfect is pretty darn good. I still neck turn now having gone from turning to no turn, and back to turning but doing the skims I can really see how consistent the stuff is.
 
I'll use Hornady 6.8 brass as a substitute for my regular brand, but only if it's not made by Hornady. They use Sellier & Bellot to make some ammo for them from time to time, to fill backlogs, but in the 6.8 Hornady made brass is on the low side for capacity and the S&B made Hornady brass is essentially the same as the S&B stamped brass I use. The headstamps are slightly different between the two.
 
Follow up on how the brass shot.

This Saturday I was able to get to the range and test the Hornady brass against Nosler. All of my Lapua is loaded up for matches so Nosler is my next best to compare. This is at 100 yards.

I had 10 Nosler loaded exactly as the Hornady brass. 107 SMK with 46 gn IMR4350 using BR-2 primers. The 2 groups I shot of Nosler came in at .625 and .910 for an average of .768.

The Hornady came in at .555 and .565 for an average of .560.

So looks like, for me at least, Hornandy is better and more consistent than Nosler for accuracy. For sure it is a replacement for my Remington-Peters brass that is getting neck and case slits all the time now. And it is as economical as R-P.

David
 

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