Building a custom varmint rifle. What to build?

[Gary Wiant]

This is my first post, I hope this is in the right spot, I put it here because I plan to use it for groundhog, coyote & Fox.

Here's a little background, I had jaw cancer in 2001 - 2003 and had to have the majority of my lower jaw bone removed so now I'm limited to low recoil sub .243 so I gave my son all my big caliber rifles and I had to start over current rifles are:
CZ 527 VARMINT .17 REM.
CZ 527 VARMINT .204 RUGER
AR 5.56 / .223
RUGER RANCH 5.56
SAVAGE TROPHY PREDATOR 22-250
RUGER 77 MK II IN .220 SWIFT
RUGER PRECISION 6.5 CREEDMORE

My son has a Remington 700 LS in .243 that I'm trading him my Savage 22-250 because it needs re-barreled and I'd rather have it than him trading it in.

I was talking to my local gunsmith and he said if I'm going to re-barrel it he will just square it up do the trigger and do his custom stuff to make it a custom rifle, and he said it can be made into pretty much whatever I want. I'm not sure if I should replace my 22-250, do it in .243 or get a caliber that is harder to find like a 250-3000 or like he recommended a 6 Dasher. I've never heard of a 6 dasher so I have no idea how it compares to the other calibers.

Thanks in advance

 

[MrMajestic]

A braked .22 or 6mm Dasher should fit your requirements and still yield a 1k+ yard firearm.

 

[Gary Wiant]

You mean a breaked 22-250? I didn't think a 22-250 was a 1000 yds. gun?

 

[MrMajestic]

No Gary, a muzzle brake on either to reduce the recoil.

 

[MrMajestic]

Also a 7 or 8tw .22-250 would have no trouble at 1k. Well no more than many others

 

[snert]

Take a little time and hit the articles listed here on the homepage. You will gather a ton of info and it will help you make a better choice. Start with the 6BR page and then do a little searching about the dasher, which is a 6BR variant, and is available (brass) now commercially produced. If you are thinking distance, think fast twist and heavy bullets for caliber. A HV (heavy varmint) dasher with a brake is like a 223 sporter in recoil.

 

[Gary Wiant]

Thanks to all I'm going to let the twist rate upto the gunsmith he knows light years more about that than I do. I would have the barrel threaded on whatever i get for a break or suppressor in the future but with the heavy barrel & laminated stock they should all be good for recoil.

How hard are dies to find for all the calibers to find

 

[Sniper338]

22BR and dont look back if you reload

 

[Gary Wiant]

I'm not opposed to a 22br or 22-250 I have an awesome load, brass & dies for the 22-250 but i was thinking I need something with a touch heavier bullet ( that the gun doesn't weigh 13+# complete ) when it's windy. how does the 22br fall inline with the .204 Ruger, .223 and .220 swift.

 

[GrocMax]

Regular ol' 6BR.

 

[Tim s]

I'm not opposed to a 22br or 22-250 I have an awesome load, brass & dies for the 22-250 but i was thinking I need something with a touch heavier bullet ( that the gun doesn't weigh 13+# complete ) when it's windy. how does the 22br fall inline with the .204 Ruger, .223 and .220 swift.

With the four you've mentioned, the 39-40 slugs available for the .204 or TAC20 for that matter have a BC about 50% higher than most anything in the 22CF world.
None of these are anything remotely capable to 1000 yds without pure random luck however the 20's are reliable to 500 yards all day long, easier on barrels, and have recoil so low you watch everything through the scope. Since I went TAC 20, I cant remember the last time I pulled one of the 22-250's out of the safe.

 

[Gary Wiant]

No thanks on the .17 Mach IV, I have a 17 HMR , 17 WSM AND 17 REM. plus with the big fields we have ANY wind causes havok.

 

[snert]

dasher dies are available at Redding. Dasher brass at Bullets.com. Dasher, dasher dasher...can I sayit again? if you must, be a regular Joe like me and shoot a plain ol 6BR. does all my 22-250 did, but does it with more pop, and farther no question, with 8 twist and heavies.

 

[Phil]

Gary,

Welcome.

The 6BR / 6 Dasher......22 BR / 22 Dasher are great cartridges, if you reload.

The 22-250 aI with the 75 Amax would be a killing machine, you might be able to run the 53 Vmax on the light side, depending on your free bore.

This is a, more difficult than usual question to answer, only you can decide what is acceptable recoil for you.

This will depend on caliber, weight, brake ( or not ) and bullet weight.

Congratulations on your success with this terrible disease, 5.5 yrs. free here 3c Colon, every day is a blessing.

Do some reading and try to familiarize yourself with some of the calibers, let us know what you decide to do.

Phil.

 

[Gary Wiant]

Gary,

Welcome.

The 6BR / 6 Dasher......22 BR / 22 Dasher are great cartridges, if you reload.

The 22-250 aI with the 75 Amax would be a killing machine, you might be able to run the 53 Vmax on the light side, depending on your free bore.

This is a, more difficult than usual question to answer, only you can decide what is acceptable recoil for you.

This will depend on caliber, weight, brake ( or not ) and bullet weight.

Congratulations on your success with this terrible disease, 5.5 yrs. free here 3c Colon, every day is a blessing.

Do some reading and try to familiarize yourself with some of the calibers, let us know what you decide to do.

Phil.

Phil congratulations on you as well it's the most scared I've ever been when I heard the Cup word & my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer this summer. We have relied in our faith in God to get us through.

My load for my 22-250 is 37.5 H380 with maginum primers and Sierra 55gr. Spitzer bullets I'm getting 3/8" groups at 100 yards. I'm still doing research on the calibers.

Keep the info coming
Thanks all

 

[timeout]

I like him
The 6mm dasher is a great round. You will need to have him install a sako or mini16 extractor for the cases to eject properly. A zero free bore dasher will push a 55 grain bullet 4000 fps. Actually faster than the 243 can. A 6br wont cost you that much speed and is nice because there is no case prep. Nothing wrong with a 22-250 or 22 br. I would probably do a 22br since recoil sounds like a main concern.

I shoot a Rem 700 Dasher with a stock extractor. I have zero trouble with the cartridge case extracting and ejecting properly. The only alteration with regards to extraction and ejecting the cartridge case I have done is to lighten the ejector spring a bit. Perhaps I am just lucky. Rather be lucky than good.

 

[OKyote73]

This is my first post, I hope this is in the right spot, I put it here because I plan to use it for groundhog, coyote & Fox.

Here's a little background, I had jaw cancer in 2001 - 2003 and had to have the majority of my lower jaw bone removed so now I'm limited to low recoil sub .243 so I gave my son all my big caliber rifles and I had to start over current rifles are:
CZ 527 VARMINT .17 REM.
CZ 527 VARMINT .204 RUGER
AR 5.56 / .223
RUGER RANCH 5.56
SAVAGE TROPHY PREDATOR 22-250
RUGER 77 MK II IN .220 SWIFT
RUGER PRECISION 6.5 CREEDMORE

My son has a Remington 700 LS in .243 that I'm trading him my Savage 22-250 because it needs re-barreled and I'd rather have it than him trading it in.

I was talking to my local gunsmith and he said if I'm going to re-barrel it he will just square it up do the trigger and do his custom stuff to make it a custom rifle, and he said it can be made into pretty much whatever I want. I'm not sure if I should replace my 22-250, do it in .243 or get a caliber that is harder to find like a 250-3000 or like he recommended a 6 Dasher. I've never heard of a 6 dasher so I have no idea how it compares to the other calibers.

Thanks in advance

I'd suggest a 22/243 ai. Excellent In the wind with 80+ grain bullets. Deadly on coyotes

 

[Nomad47]

My Savage target action with laminated stock and 30" 1.125 no taper Brux barrel topped with a 10-50 Sightron scope weighs 16 pounds. Definitely not a carry rifle (well, carry it from the back seat of the pickup to the bench). In 6XC shooting 105 AMax bullets, it is a 1000 yard groundhog killer with not much recoil. And with a suppressor added, it is easy to see the hits (and misses) at any distance.

 

[Phil]

I'd suggest a 22/243 ai. Excellent In the wind with 80+ grain bullets. Deadly on coyotes

I can`t wait to shoot mine...............

 

[Gary Wiant]

So this is probably a stupid question but is a 22-243 a 243 necked to 22?

Can I use a forming die to make the brass and would I need a custom die or would I use a 243 die?