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Your progression on groundhogs from earliest age to present - rifles, optics and distance

I was born at an early age. ;)
I started g'hog hunting when I was 12 or 13. Like most, my first gun was a 22 rim fire. I would sneak up and try to smack them at 75 yards or less, iron sights. Then at 15, I got my first CF, a 30-06 and put a 4x Unertl on it, mainly for deer. I shot 125 grain handloads and the 55 grain accelerators out to 150, maybe 200 yards at groundhogs. At 18, I bought my first true varmint rifle, a Remington 700bdl heavy barrel in 6mm Remington. Can't remember what scope I put on it but it was probably a 3-9. I remember killing one at 440 yards and was ecstatic. And all the locals thought I was telling a tall tale.
Now I expect a 600 yard shot to be a kill 90% of the time. I've killed 2 over 1000 and I've had 2 chances past 1100. Of course, equipment is much better. 6XC and 6SLR shooting 105 AMax's, 16 pound rifles with wide bipods, Sightron SIII 10-50x60 scopes
 
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My first hog was at 12yrs old using a Mauser 22lr. I moved into the 25-06 BDL VS using Nosler BT, killed a few over 300yds, that was a treat. Next was a Ruger 22-250 Varmint, then a long pause (12yrs), a 204R (xr100), 17m4, then it became a mess of calibers. My farthest kill with a 6mm (BR) is 932yds with a first shot hit, with a 22 cal it's 910yds with a 223, with a 20cal it's 815yds. I've hit them over 1k but couldn't keep them from their holes. 90% or greater kills are first shot hits, only four of the nearly 600 in the last few years have required a second shot.
The next year will be dominated by the Dashers(6mm/22).
 
It started with a Winchester 67 22. Then a Model 88 Winchester (open sights on both). Then a Rem 700 Varmint Special BDL 222 with Lyman AA 8X, upgraded to a steel weaver T10. Then a VS BDL 22-250, moved T10 to it. Then a 40XB 22-250 with a Leupold 6-20EFR with turrets. I had a VERY brief affair with a crappy Ruger 77 Hornet. Then did some handgun work with a Ruger MK 2 Govnt 22. Suddenly the bug bit and I went from a one gun guy to well....can't say cause my wife hasn't counted. A funky and fun Arisaka based 220 Swift with that old T10 on it, a Ross Sherman built Superior 22PPC with a 24x Leupold, a Hart Exp3000 6BR with a Leupold 6-20, a 700 Sendero 7mm Mag with 6-18 Leupold, a Contender carbine with 22K hornet barrel and a Japanese Weaver T10, and a lowly HR sportster 17HMR with a Bushy 10X 3200 on it. There may be more but I cannot confirm nor deny..

I started at about 12 feet and am just shy of 800 yards with the 7 mag and 220 Swift.

Next up? A 20 Vartarg...
 
I got my start with my father in the early 70's. He bought my first "Chucker", a Remington 581 that I added a 7/8" 4X Weaver on top. He swore by the, then new, CCI Stingers so that's what we ran. He said a hit was "spat....kerplop". Only found out when the bug bite how inaccurate they were! He limited us to 50 yards and headshots only because we cleaned and ate them! When I got out on my own I swore I would never eat another and have held it true!
Got married in '80 and added a Ruger 77V in .22-250 and later a Winchester M88 that shot the Speer 130 grain HP's into 3/4 MOA. Used to swap a 20X Lyman between the two. Drilled holes in our dining room table to mount my reloading press, yes she's a keeper! We thought then that 300 yards was a long shot and bragged plenty when we made one!
Kids came and there was a 25 year hiatus, ffd to 2010. Man did technology and quality change! Finances now allow me to run many, shhh wife is not sure, from a .22-284 down to .17 Mach II. Sure do wish Dad were still here to see it...
 
A friend took me groundhog hunting I was 18 at the time, he had a 220 swift in a pre 64 win. varmint rifle on a farm in New Sewickly twp. that is between Rochester Pa. and Zeleonople Pa. I have been hunting that same farm since (56 years) and shot 31 groundhogs on that farm last summer. I didn't have a center fire rifle but I got a job in the blast furnace dept. for J&L steel in Aliquippa Pa. I then bought a pre 64 model 70 westerner in .264 and used it for groundhogs and deer in Pa. I then bought a used pre 64 model 70 varmint in 220 swift with a unertel 15x ultra varmint scope (it was the cat's meow at the time) I promptly shot the barrel out on that rifle. Since then I have hunted groundhogs with rifles in 7x300 wby., 7mm tcu, 6.5-06, 6mm rem, 22-250, .223, 22 hornet, .204 ruger, and 17 rem, and I may have forgot a few. I am now using a 22x47 for the longer shots and either a 22-250, 204, 223 for the closer shots, my rifles are either rem. model 700's cooper or sako with leupold scopes 6x18, 6.5x20, or 8.5x25. I use 80 gr. hornady a-max in the 22x47 and 54 gr. bullets that I make for the other 22 calibers and 32 gr. v-max in the .204. My longest kill was 605 yards with the 6.5-06 and I shot 104 last summer longest was 568 yards with the 22x47. I will be 75 in January and God willing I will hunt groundhogs as long as my health holds up. Groundhogs are my favorite animals to hunt and all the dedicated groundhog hunters that I know were true riflemen, hunters that don't hunt groundhogs don't know what they are missing
Drags
 
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A brand new Remington 722 in 222, with a K-10. That started me on the road to ruination. There was a string of them over the years.

Currently, 20 Tac - 218 Bee's (two of them) - 221 FurBall Rem Classic with a DAG barrel - 222 Rem - 223 Rem - 222 Mag - 22-250 - 220 Swift - 6mmBR - 6mm Rem (two of them) - and a 264 WM. Scopes are a mix of Nikon 6.5-20x44 Monarchs, Unertls, and Lyman TargetSpots.
 
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John R..."the road to ruination"...i love it! And what a great road it is. My best days have been in the fields. I told my daughter that there is a moment at the end of the day right after the sun goes down and then the breeze stops for a moment. Then a sigh of wind passes bye...like the world just exhaled in praise of another day of glory. I love those moments in the field and in the squirrel woods. Now she loves it too.

My duece is a 722 that I rebarreled and put in a 40X stock.

Drag, my dad worked north and south mill power house until 1985, for J and L. (And to him it remained J and L, not LTV)

I used to shoot dove (ok, shot AT dove) near Big Knob grange fairgrounds.

Just got a little 700 carbine 243 for my daughter...and I am sure she will shoot a chuck or three with it this summer, though right now she is hoping for a deer.
 
Groundhogs are my favorite animals to hunt and all the dedicated groundhog hunters that I know were true riflemen, hunters that don't hunt groundhogs don't know what they are missing

Remember Don Lewis, gunwriter for Game News? Sad to see his passing, as he "held my imagination" thru the teen years as I started my obsesion. He would agree...if you don't hunt them, you don't know what you are missing.
 
Groundhogs are my favorite animals to hunt and all the dedicated groundhog hunters that I know were true riflemen, hunters that don't hunt groundhogs don't know what they are missing

Remember Don Lewis, gunwriter for Game News? Sad to see his passing, as he "held my imagination" thru the teen years as I started my obsesion. He would agree...if you don't hunt them, you don't know what you are missing.
Hi Snert, I hunted a farm next to the big knob fairgrounds for years but Shell Oil bought the farm and posted it. Don Lewis was the first thing I read when the Game News came, he was a true dedicated groundhog hunter.

drags
 
To add to my first post...... I started hunting chucks in the late 50s. Gonna turn 70 before the next season. And like Mr M, I had a hiatus of several years - lived in cities, got the golf bug, married, divorced, married, etc - not necessarily in that order.
I got back into groundhog hunting about 15 years ago. Bought a 223 WSSM and a 22-250, shot 55 grain bullets and had 6-18 scopes on them. Shot one at 500 yards with the 223 WSSM and the long range bug bit me at that moment. First thing was to upgrade to 8-32 Sightron scopes. My 17 year old grandson (now a Marine) shot one with the 22-250 and I shot one with the 223 WSSM - both in the 800 yard neighborhood. Hard to say what the bullets were doing when they hit the 'hogs - we were past break velocity. I wanted to get to 1000 yards, so the 223 WSSM became a 243 WSSM in 8 twist and the 8-32 got replaced with a 10-50 Sightron. Shooting 105 AMax's, that gun was capable of 1000 yard kills, but the opportunity never presented itself. Several 'hogs bit the dust in the 8 to 900 yard range with that rifle before I sold it. Next up was a Savage Target action in 6XC and a little later a 6SLR barrel was added. The 6XC has my personal record distance of 1062 yards. The 6SLR has a 1017 yard kill to its credit and a couple of near misses beyond 1100 yards. I have since added another Savage Target action and another SIghtron 10-50, my "Buckeye" rifle. The original action now has 2 6SLR barrels and the Buckeye has 2 6XC barrels.
After Ohio made it legal to hunt with a suppressor early last year, I have added a build-your-own Form 1 suppressor. I can now shoot near homes and livestock without getting anyone upset. Sounds about like a 22 rimfire, the bullet crack is about all you hear.
Pictured is my Buckeye rifle in Scarlet and Gray.
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John R..."the road to ruination"...i love it!

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___________________ The Woodchuck Loft ______________________
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Back when I was a young pup, I used to shoot woodchucks in Connecticut with a good friend who was addicted to woodchuck shooting.

The addiction was contagious, and I caught a chronic case of it, which has yet to be cured.
I tried several doctors, and they said, "Take two 22-250's and call me after the weekend." But I never called, cuz I was too embarrassed to admit that I had fallen off the wagon (again), and succumbed to "the Fever".

I would rather go woodchuck shooting on New England farms, than do anything else.

We hunted all over central Connecticut, and some in New York. In New York, we shot the farms up along the Taconic Parkway.

In those days, Connecticut was a totally different kind of state. It was very rural and "countrified".

One spring, we were scouting Connecticut for some new farms to shoot, and we found this ratty old run down farm that nobody lived on, but the fields were huge and freshly cut. The place where the farmhouse use to be was now just a large stone foundation.
The whole property was heavily posted, "No Hunting or Trespassing Without Written Permission".

We looked over the fields with our bins, and the place was rotten lousy with woodchucks - they were like fleas on a stray dog.

So we went to the Office of Land Records and tracked down the owner. He was retired and lived in town. He said that he didn't want city hunters running all over the place. He and his family and friends hunted it in the fall, and they had no interest in shooting the woodchucks.

He leased the fields to a neighboring dairy farmer, and the farmer complained about all of the woodchuck holes in the fields.

We got written permission to shoot all the chucks and crows we wanted to, anytime we wanted to.

We found a ratty old abandoned barn at the end of a huge field. It was all broke and half falling down. We took it over, and spent two weekends cleaning out the hay loft.

When we sat up in the loft, we had a full view of the whole field from the loft door. The far end was well over 1,100 yards.

Back then, it was long before anyone ever even dreamed of laser rangefinders, and surplus military optical rangefinders like the Wild 80 cm, the Barr & Stroud and the Swedish Periscope, were financially out of the question, or not available at all.

So we marked out the field ranges by walking off the distance to various trees, landmarks, and fence posts, with a 50 yard long piece of rope. We wrote them down on a big home made map that we kept tacked on the wall of the loft so we could dial in the ranges with the scope micrometers.

On overcast days, during or after a light drizzle, anything within 700-800 yards was in big trouble. On sunny days in August, 500 yards was about it.

We both shot heavy 40-XB rifles with big-assed, 2 foot long Unertl scopes. Mikey shot a 6mm Walker International, and I shot a 22-250. I still have that rifle and scope. After 5 barrels as a 22-250, it is now a 6mm / .244 Remington.

We shot that field in the spring for woodchucks and crows, and then after each cutting of the crops, and on into the fall until the first snow came.

It was hot in July and August, but the breezes blew through the loft, and carried the smell of fresh hay or alfalfa, with a touch of "Eau De' Cow Pie" from the fertilizer, and it was pure heaven.

We would hole up for a whole a day, or a weekend, and bring a cooler of soda pop, sandwiches, a bunch of hand loads and we were in woodchuck shooter's heaven.

We shot it for 7 or 8 years, and one spring, after a really tough winter, we came up to shoot, and our beautiful ol' brokie down barn had completely collapsed into a pile of rubble.

The above picture is not the original barn, but it looks almost exactly like it (this one also collapsed).

Those were some of the best memories of my life.
 
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I haven't hunted in years, but Woodchuck hunting was my favorite. My best friend and I would pack up a cooler and our guns and head up to Northern Orange County, New York where we had permission from a number of farmers. We would set up a bench and beach umbrellas and lay out our guns. Shots to 100 Yards were taken with a S&W Model 41 with a scoped 7 1/4" Barrel. 100 to 250 with an Scoped XP-100 in .221 Fireball. 250 to 300 with a H&R .17 Remington and out past 300 with a .22-250 with a Unertel Scope and then if much past 500 with a .25-06 Heavy Barrel Varminter.

Now with some better rifles and calibers, I would love to get back into it, but my shooting buddy has passed and all my shooting friends are shotguners or live too far away to make it easy to do.

Anyone in the New York City area that is looking for a wood chuck hunting accomplice for next season should let me know. I have a Custom Shop 40X in 6mmBR Norma that is itching to makes its bones!

Bob
 
We had no groundhogs here in the foothills in my youth. We would call and shoot crows with shotguns, or just pull over and pop at them with 22's off the truck hood. I saw my first hog bowhunting in the mountains over an old orchard. I wondered " What the hell is that thing?"o_O
When they finally moved into our area due to farming, it opened up a lot of opportunities for shooters to go play. As I age, it has become one of my favorite outdoor activities now that knowledge and finances allow me better equipment.
Coyotes here have take there toll but there seems to be and uptick in the hogs this year.
Edit - oops almost forgot - 6x45 xcaliber barreled M7, 6x45 shilen barreled AR, both with 6x18 Leupolds, Savage 223 with 3.5 x 10 Leupold and I'll probably take the 6ppc out topped with a T10 next year. Longest shot - 402 yards over soybeans.
 
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Nomad -

Howdy !

My first 2 "Soybeanus Digestus " kills were made w/ my Dad's open-sighted Marlin M-39A.
I manages both w/ conventional .22LR RN bullets... one @ 100yd, one @ 96yd.
This was the summer I was 18y.o.

Went off to " Basic Training " Jun '72, and shot the M-16 as my first intro to center fire rifles.

Bought a Marlin semi-auto .22LR rifle, but had constant feed problems.
Went on to purchase a P.O. Ackley custom Inter Arms Mk X action w/ a 24" Douglas chrome moly and Bishop deluxe walnut stock. It was a .22-250 repeater, made 7yr after the .22-250 had become a factory cartridge/chambering.

I bought another custom M-98, this one a 22" heavy-barreled .22-250, that had a massive Monte-Carlo roll-over stock w/ a huge grip area. That one was a custom gun w/ double set triggers, assembled by
riflesmith C.L. Meracle... of Van Wert, OH .

When the 2 custom .22-250's did not meet my accuracy expectations @ local score/group shoots,
I had local riflesmith Fred Sinclair make me a full custom varmint rifle.
Fred recommended I go w/ a Wichita single shot WBR1375 3-lug action. I $$$ a Hart SS 1-14 .224" cal barrel blank, that Fred finished as a 24" 1.375" diam straight bull barrel.
*** The barrel was chambered in a .224" cal wildcat of my own design...... .22-.35Remington .

I shot the 24" 1-14 for over 20yr, shooting Hornady's outstanding 55SX bullet over a charge of 41.2gr WW760 + FED Large Rifle Magnum Match. I got my first 500yd kill w/ the 24" 1-14 a 510 yd kill on a groundhog using a prototype of the then new Hornady 55 "V"-Max; from a small batch Steve Hornady had sent me. After the original barrel started key-holing some bullets, I had the rifle re-done....

I briefly shot the Wichita barreled as a 22" SS 1-16 .358" caliber, chambered for .357AutoMag.
I made groundhog kills w/ the gun to 350yd, but had shoot-through concerns.

I re-barreled the Wichita to a 28" SS K & P 1-8 .224" caliber, chambered again for my .22-35.
With this set up , I shot Hornady 75"A"-MAx exclusively. I took the rifle to the Southfork Rifle Club's
"World Groundhog Shooting Championships " in Beaverdale, PA ; twice.
When I developed trouble seeing .224" cal bullet holes on-paper @ 300 when using a 2X boosted Weaver 36X, I had the gun re-barreled; again.

This time, I went w/ a new 6mm wildcat of my own design. My wildcat " DEEP 6 " has a chamber cut by running a 6mm Remington reamer in " short ", for a base diam of .466" .
I use 7 X 64 Brenneke as the parent brass, as it has the required .466" base diam, and is .308 bolt face compatible.

DEEP 6 is a true 1,000 yd capable dual role' varmint / target rifle.
Before I moved from NE Indiana in Jul 2009, DEEP 6 had been my go-to rifle for groundhogs, shooting 95MKs or Berger 95 VLDs for virtually all varmint shots. I also took the rifle to the Southfork Rifle CLub's annual " World Groundhog Shooting Championship " shoot; twice.

Now that I live in NE Oklahoma, DEEP 6 will eventually be used as my dedicated PD rifle; a trip I hope to make soon w/ my best friend and shooting buddy from NE Indiana. There's still a lot of life left on the current 29" Broughton 6mm SS 1-8 Palma-tapered barrel.

With regards,
357Mag
 
Groundhogs are my favorite animals to hunt and all the dedicated groundhog hunters that I know were true riflemen, hunters that don't hunt groundhogs don't know what they are missing

Remember Don Lewis, gunwriter for Game News? Sad to see his passing, as he "held my imagination" thru the teen years as I started my obsesion. He would agree...if you don't hunt them, you don't know what you are missing.

I remember Don Lewis. I read his stuff also. If I recall, his largest chuck was 23 pounds... a friggin' monster.
 
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___________________ The Woodchuck Loft ______________________
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Back when I was a young pup, I used to shoot woodchucks in Connecticut with a good friend who was addicted to woodchuck shooting.

The addiction was contagious, and I caught a chronic case of it, which has yet to be cured.
I tried several doctors, and they said, "Take two 22-250's and call me after the weekend." But I never called, cuz I was too embarrassed to admit that I had fallen off the wagon (again), and succumbed to "the Fever".

I would rather go woodchuck shooting on New England farms, than do anything else.

We hunted all over central Connecticut, and some in New York. In New York, we shot the farms up along the Taconic Parkway.

In those days, Connecticut was a totally different kind of state. It was very rural and "countrified".

One spring, we were scouting Connecticut for some new farms to shoot, and we found this ratty old run down farm that nobody lived on, but the fields were huge and freshly cut. The place where the farmhouse use to be was now just a large stone foundation.
The whole property was heavily posted, "No Hunting or Trespassing Without Written Permission".

We looked over the fields with our bins, and the place was rotten lousy with woodchucks - they were like fleas on a stray dog.

So we went to the Office of Land Records and tracked down the owner. He was retired and lived in town. He said that he didn't want city hunters running all over the place. He and his family and friends hunted it in the fall, and they had no interest in shooting the woodchucks.

He leased the fields to a neighboring dairy farmer, and the farmer complained about all of the woodchuck holes in the fields.

We got written permission to shoot all the chucks and crows we wanted to, anytime we wanted to.

We found a ratty old abandoned barn at the end of a huge field. It was all broke and half falling down. We took it over, and spent two weekends cleaning out the hay loft.

When we sat up in the loft, we had a full view of the whole field from the loft door. The far end was well over 1,100 yards.

Back then, it was long before anyone ever even dreamed of laser rangefinders, and surplus military optical rangefinders like the Wild 80 cm, the Barr & Stroud and the Swedish Periscope, were financially out of the question, or not available at all.

So we marked out the field ranges by walking off the distance to various trees, landmarks, and fence posts, with a 50 yard long piece of rope. We wrote them down on a big home made map that we kept tacked on the wall of the loft so we could dial in the ranges with the scope micrometers.

On overcast days, during or after a light drizzle, anything within 700-800 yards was in big trouble. On sunny days in August, 500 yards was about it.

We both shot heavy 40-XB rifles with big-assed, 2 foot long Unertl scopes. Mikey shot a 6mm Walker International, and I shot a 22-250. I still have that rifle and scope. After 5 barrels as a 22-250, it is now a 6mm / .244 Remington.

We shot that field in the spring for woodchucks and crows, and then after each cutting of the crops, and on into the fall until the first snow came.

It was hot in July and August, but the breezes blew through the loft, and carried the smell of fresh hay or alfalfa, with a touch of "Eau De' Cow Pie" from the fertilizer, and it was pure heaven.

We would hole up for a whole a day, or a weekend, and bring a cooler of soda pop, sandwiches, a bunch of hand loads and we were in woodchuck shooter's heaven.

We shot it for 7 or 8 years, and one spring, after a really tough winter, we came up to shoot, and our beautiful ol' brokie down barn had completely collapsed into a pile of rubble.

The above picture is not the original barn, but it looks almost exactly like it (this one also collapsed).

Those were some of the best memories of my life.


Wow, if someone shot near the Taconic now the helicopters would be circling.

Come Upstate!

snert
 
A friend of mine took me groundhog hunting in Virginia in the mid to late 80's and I fell in love. I grew up helping a local farmer that used to show me where he had shot crows from the corner of the house 2 light poles away with an iron sighted .22 LR. Probably 150-175 yards away and I thought that was just amazing. So a friend showed up years later with a 225 Winchester and I watched him shoot a crow at probably 150 yards like it was nothing and I wanted a 225. Local gun store told me they were no longer in production and recommended a 22-250. I wasn't happy but I bought a 22-250 Ruger Varmint and finally made my first 300 yard kill in North Carolina foothills. Now I was a true long range shooter. I began to dream of a legitimate 500 yard kill. I worked for 2 Land surveyors back then and became an excellent range estimator (pre range finder days). I finally made a 400 yard one shot kill in 1988 and was really convinced I knew long range now. In 1990 I had a Remington 22-250 rebarreled with a Lilja for 22-250 Ackley (55 gr bullets) and the first trip up to Virginia with 3 shots I killed 2 groundhogs at 550 yards (still pre rangefinder days) and I felt I had made it into the long range shooter category for sure. The next year I shot a groundhog at 625 yards in Virginia with the first shot. Longest kill (one shot btw...rangefinder now) with this rifle was 741 yards in Ohio years later. I now began to dream of the 1000 yard shot which was unthinkable in my mind. I then bought a Very used 40-X in 7mm Rem Mag from an old groundhog Hunter that Had actually hunted the same areas I hunted in Virginia (not knowing this before buying rifle). He and his best friend were long range hunters and kept detailed records showing the longest kill with that rifle was 810 yards. In his late friends honor I vowed to eclipse his record with that rifle. In 2004 I shot a groundhog in Ohio (Carl Zeiss optical rangefinder now) with this wore out 7 Mag at 1029 yards and decided to totally refinish and rebarreled in a new chambering (6.5WSM 9 twist). The following year the first hunt with this totally new refinished, rebarreled rifle I made my longest one shot kill (on film with witness) at 1164 YARDS!!!!!! Head shot but was aiming for shoulder. Checked distance with a Leica 1200 yard rangefinder at mid point of distance and added the distances. Also used the Carl Zeiss optical rangefinder to check and we accepted the lowest yardage as the record shot. 2 days later at the same bean fields I shot a groundhog with the second shot at 1358 YARDS!!!!!! This is on film with a witness as well. I had achieved something that I had only dreamed of as a young man and I think back to how the older gentleman farmer had instilled the long range desire into my heart not knowing how much I admired his shooting accomplishments back then and now he is not here to hear the stories. I now have a 28 Yukon (long neck 28 Nosler) chambered for the high BC 195 gr Berger bullet hoping to make a legitimate 1 mile kill before I die. Just a goal set for myself. I love long range and am amazed at how far we have come with the precision and capabilities of the equipment we have today. All these stories/ranges are 100 percent true and not one unearned yard has been added to these ranges. Shane
 

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