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Plain fact of the matter:
For example, if I shoot the same load out of the same chamber and the only changes are as follows, I will get a different resized "number" each time:
1. Lapua virgin brass
2. Lapua brass that's been fired a number of times with hotter loads and the web is out in the .471" diameter range
3. Norma Virgin brass
4. Norma brass that's been fired a number of times with hotter loads and the web is out in the .471" diameter range
Donovan's original question asking for a "number" was a loaded question to which I gave the best answer.
Donovan then followed and didn't like that and wanted a spreadsheet type chart with a whole bunch of data including:
" how many firings on the brass and how hard were they hit (in terms of velocity). What did they expand to at the base/web after each firing, and what did they size back to in the fallow on re-sizing? [The] sized base/web diameters (or at least good estimates of what can be expected from sized cases with your dies) from brass with repeated firings that is well work-hardened (like "clicks" derive from)."
I responded and said it is "not worth it" for me to put all that time into making up some kind of spreadsheet like that.
But what I don't understand is why Donovan asked the question for a "number" in the first place when he already knew the results would vary depending on dimensional and hardness factors - - was that just some kind of "gotcha" type quiz?
I am sorry to say but it seems like this thread has devolved from there - and I apologize if some have found my responses not to their liking or offensive.
Many of us love to shoot and we're passionate about it - - hopefully we keep our passions focused in a productive direction.
Robert
For example, if I shoot the same load out of the same chamber and the only changes are as follows, I will get a different resized "number" each time:
1. Lapua virgin brass
2. Lapua brass that's been fired a number of times with hotter loads and the web is out in the .471" diameter range
3. Norma Virgin brass
4. Norma brass that's been fired a number of times with hotter loads and the web is out in the .471" diameter range
Donovan's original question asking for a "number" was a loaded question to which I gave the best answer.
Donovan then followed and didn't like that and wanted a spreadsheet type chart with a whole bunch of data including:
" how many firings on the brass and how hard were they hit (in terms of velocity). What did they expand to at the base/web after each firing, and what did they size back to in the fallow on re-sizing? [The] sized base/web diameters (or at least good estimates of what can be expected from sized cases with your dies) from brass with repeated firings that is well work-hardened (like "clicks" derive from)."
I responded and said it is "not worth it" for me to put all that time into making up some kind of spreadsheet like that.
But what I don't understand is why Donovan asked the question for a "number" in the first place when he already knew the results would vary depending on dimensional and hardness factors - - was that just some kind of "gotcha" type quiz?
I am sorry to say but it seems like this thread has devolved from there - and I apologize if some have found my responses not to their liking or offensive.
Many of us love to shoot and we're passionate about it - - hopefully we keep our passions focused in a productive direction.
Robert
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