Bore Tech Eliminator - Opinions

[K22]

What is your opinion on the effectiveness of Bore Tech Eliminator for cleaning rifles shooting cooper jacketed bullets.

Their instructions specify the use of nylon brushes. Is that sufficient to remove carbon fouling (i.e. witihout bronze brushing)?

 

[Mark Walker in TX]

It's good stuff. I apply it with patches and let it soak. I still use a bronze brush, but I do put some butches gun oil on the brush, not the BT.

 

[aloreman]

follow the directions. fantastic

 

[davidpatton]

ive had good luck with it. One day i forgot my cleaning stuff at home so before the match i bought some of that to try, ended up shooting smallest group of the match and winning. The guys who sold it to me swore thats how i won lol, May be a superstition but i use it all the time and never had any problems.

 

[ShootDots]

I still use it and it is very good. However, I am going to try some of the Bore-Tech C4 Carbon Remover. I will then have to go after copper with something else. I think I will try Montana Extreme Copper Killer. But to answer your question, The Bore-Tech Eliminator is good stuff indeed! By the way, I use bronze brushes like Mark does..

 

[Endyo]

I like it. I use Boretech's nylon brush and have run my borescope through after cleaning. Picks up the vast majority of fouling. If you've gone a while between cleanings you may still have some residue.

FWIW I've been using Wipe-Out with similar success. I think the Boretech is a little stronger, Wipe-Out is safer on the barrel it's OK to leave in over-night where Boretech recommends NOT to.

 

[LHSmith]

I am a Butches Bore Shine fan. It works, so I am not going to experiment with others. However, I do see BT Eliminator in use at matches also. I would caution about avoiding using bronze brushes. A few years ago the trend was to only use nylon brushes, but most of those who advocated that soon found themselves with fouling build-up and went back to using bronze brushes. Iosso or JB on a patch or nylon brush is the only sure way to control carbon build-up in the throat area, aka carbon ring.

 

[TimP]

I still use it and it is very good. However, I am going to try some of the Bore-Tech C4 Carbon Remover. I will then have to go after copper with something else. I think I will try Montana Extreme Copper Killer. But to answer your question, The Bore-Tech Eliminator is good stuff indeed! By the way, I use bronze brushes like Mark does..[/QUOTE
You are going to like their C4 Carbon Remover. Depending on where the barrel is on round count I can typically push about 15 wet patches down a warm bore and remove most if not all of the carbon. Then I go after the copper with Patch Out. Inspect with my bore scope and brush only if needed. I will be interested to hear your results after trying C4.

 

[ShootDots]

TimP, I will let you know how it goes, once I start. I still have 1/2 16 oz. bottle of Eliminator left.. Once it's gone, the C4 will be used.. I will let you know..

 

[snakepit]

If you go to the Bore Tech Chemical Guide on their web site you will see that the C4 is rated as Excellent for carbon removal. Their Cu+2 Copper remover is rated as Excellent for Copper removal. The one step Eliminator is rated as Good for Carbon removal and Excellent for Copper removal. For my regular cleaning I use the C4 and Cu+2 two step process. For quick cleaning such as at the range I use the one step Eliminator process.

Bore Tech Chemical Guide: www.boretech.com/docs/chemicalguide.shtml

 

[DeltaBravo]

Bore Tech recommends running a patch with eliminator on it before storing a barrel. I use it at the range and leave it in over night or sometimes 2 nights. I get one blue patch, then clean. I've used Wipe Out w/Accelerator, Shooter's Choice, etc., and I think that BT Eliminator is the best.

Dennis

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Im a shooters choice or butch's man myself. I have a bundle of dewey rods ruined by eliminator before i could get stopped. I keep em stood up there to remind me not to use it

 

[snakepit]

Im a shooters choice or butch's man myself. I have a bundle of dewey rods ruined by eliminator before i could get stopped. I keep em stood up there to remind me not to use it

I have used Dewey Rods with Eliminator, C4 and Cu+2 for years and have never had a problem or noticed any damage to the Dewey Rods.

 

[ljmontano]

Give KG1 and KG 12 a try. Google
KG12 copper remover test results. I start with KG1 carbon remover 20 strokes with a nylon brush and let it work for approximately 20 minutes, then run a couple of patches you will see blue. Then repeat with KG 12 which will turn a light brown. Then ck bore with scope repeat if necessary probably won't need to. This product has no strong smell to it.

 

[jonbearman]

Montana copper killer is strong stuff. It does have ammonia in it and I would never leave it in over night regardless. I use nylon brushes as well but if it is heavy I use bronze to loosen it and go to nylon for the clean-up. Then I use hoppes or something with a couple wet patches to make sure all the copper killer is out. Montana copper cream works ok as well which works like iosso or jb.

 

[waldo1979]

I have no complaints about any Boretech product. I really like their cleaning rods. Eliminator is great for breaking in new barrels as it really shows the presence of copper. The rimfire blend is great as well.

One note, if you use needle oilers in your range box Eliminator can react with the needle. I use oiler bottles with plastic tips from here:
http://www.precisionoilerplus.com

 

[Jose_Luis_G]

There is a basic reason for using nylon instead of bronze brushes.
It is as easy as that when you use bronze, you don't know if what you see in the brush comes from the barrel or else from the brush itself.
The product goes against all copper, no matter if it is found in the bore or in the brush.
It also happens that when using the wrong brush, a part of the efectiveness of the product is wasted in the brush instead of doing the job in the bore as expected.
Any of my barrels have never ever seen a brush of any kind. I only use felt VFK cleaners with an aluminum jag. Nothing JB can go for.

 

[Peter Lazer]

There is a basic reason for using nylon instead of bronze brushes.
It is as easy as that when you use bronze, you don't know if what you see in the brush comes from the barrel or else from the brush itself.
The product goes against all copper, no matter if it is found in the bore or in the brush.
It also happens that when using the wrong brush, a part of the efectiveness of the product is wasted in the brush instead of doing the job in the bore as expected.
Any of my barrels have never ever seen a brush of any kind. I only use felt VFK cleaners with an aluminum jag. Nothing JB can go for.

What Jose said is correct.If you use a nylon brush,the wire has to be aluminum.

 

[johnnyi]

Eliminator works well to remove both carbon and copper. nylon brush...? well, depending how much shooting you are doing between cleanings and what kind of pressures you are running..? If low to moderate pressure, I'm sure the nylon is fine. shooting Fclass matches, I quickly found out that Nylon was not near the level of brush to remove baked on 60k+ psi carbon.

this is what I do with a seasoned barrel that is beyond the necessary initial settling when a barrel will sometimes hold more copper.
I now run C4 soak several patches and let it soak for 30+ minutes
come back and run several passes with the bronze brush with more C4
flush all of that out with a couple more patches soaked with C4
sit another 10 minutes
flush all of that with a few more patches of eliminator I let that soak for another 30+ minutes. I have been fortunate on the last couple of barrels not getting too much in the way of copper sign.
this is usually plenty to have remove all of the fouling from my barrel.

the other solvents that others have mentioned work well in other various methods following the solvents directions. I had used butches prior to boretech product. works very well! However after trying Boretech products, work just as well and without the strong smell.

* I had not see any ill effects to cleaning rods using boretech. I wipe the cleaning rod with a dry towel after every pass to keep all of the solvent, gunk and grime off of the rod. I use both boretech and dewey cleaning rods. Both look fine to me.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

I used all that other junk and I thought I was getting my barrels clean until my buddy let me borrow his bore scope. Then he gave me some bore tech to use the separate chemicals not the eliminator. Cleanest barrels I've ever had.