Target Frame Design for High Power Rifle 100 yard Reduced Course

[chkunz]

I am looking for a design for the target frame for the NRA High Power Rifle 100 yard reduced course. Anyone have a design that they like.

 

[Taildrag15X]

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[tazzman]

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Taildrag,

I am also interested in doing this at my range. Could you share too?

Thanks, Phil Fortin aka tazzman

 

[itchyTF]

My thoughts -

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/target-stand.3752432/

 

[chkunz]

I am looking for a design for a target frame for the NRA High Power Rifle National Match Course 100 yard reduced course format. I could not find where someone else has created the design that I need so I modified an existing configuration from the Gallatin Gun Club Range and the design I have developed is presented below in case others would like to use this design. I will build a prototype of this design and beta test it this summer and report my findings. A couple of things that I have learned is that it helps to cut a hole in the cardboard larger than the aiming black to facilitate seeing bullet holes at 100 yards. Another dimension that needs to be determined is the height of the target frame above ground level to give the optimum compromise between the standing and prone positions and this may be somewhat range dependent since all firing lines are not level with the target positions. Also a friend is working on the design of a tool to facilitate the setting of the 2 inch PVC pipes into the ground for setting up the targets. The 36 inch target frame width is a compromise between wider which minimizes hits on the frame and a more narrow width which increases the chance of hits from the beginners. Uline sell the 36" by 36'' cardboard panels in either single or double ply.

 

[Taildrag15X]

Chuck you should have an email with our old 30 year design/material list.....

Also Chuck the backer is required behind the Target, don't worry about seeing holes, that's why the NRA allows Spotting Scopes......

tazzman PM sent....

 

[chkunz]

Chuck you should have an email with our old 30 year design/material list.....

Also Chuck the backer is required behind the Target, don't worry about seeing holes, that's why the NRA allows Spotting Scopes......

tazzman PM sent....

Depending on the light, time of day and the direction of the range, seeing bullet holes can be difficult to impossible at times. Some clubs have determined that cutting a hole in the backer behind the aiming black or even larger helps with this. Other ranges also put something white behind the target frames. So it becomes rather range specific and a good spotting scope is essential in any case.

 

[Taildrag15X]

Depending on the light, time of day and the direction of the range, seeing bullet holes can be difficult to impossible at times. Some clubs have determined that cutting a hole in the backer behind the aiming black or even larger helps with this. Other ranges also put something white behind the target frames. So it becomes rather range specific and a good spotting scope is essential in any case.

I know all about it, have shot Service Rifle for over 40 years....and again a backer is required if NRA Approved or Registered.....

 

[chkunz]

I know all about it, have shot Service Rifle for over 40 years....and again a backer is required if NRA Approved or Registered.....

I have shot some smallbore prone and am familiar with backers. It seems reasonable that, as you say backers, would be a requirement for high power NRA Approved or Registered reduced course events. I have attended some reduced course events where targets were scored on frames rather than in the pits and none of the events used backers. So, I just spent some time with the NRA Rule Book and I can not find a rule that requires this. Can you cite the rule that addresses this requirement?

 

[Taildrag15X]

Yes reduced course is scored in the Frames when Pits are not available, off the top of my head I think it was under Range Standards....doesn't mean it's still there as it's only a suggestion for Electronic Targets.

What do they have behind the Target, nothing and stapled to a wood frame?

 

[chkunz]

Yes reduced course is scored in the Frames when Pits are not available, off the top of my head I think it was under Range Standards....doesn't mean it's still there as it's only a suggestion for Electronic Targets.

What do they have behind the Target, nothing and stapled to a wood frame?

Yes, it is stapled to the frame, either wood or cardboard. I looked in "Range Standards" and there is nothing there relative to the requirement for the use of backers.

 

[akajun]

I have not shot a 100yd reduced match in years, but I do remember that at that short distance, the difference between offhand and prone was a problem. How about a target frame in the shape of an 8, that allows you to place the target in a high position for offhand, or low position for everything else.

 

[chkunz]

I have not shot a 100yd reduced match in years, but I do remember that at that short distance, the difference between offhand and prone was a problem. How about a target frame in the shape of an 8, that allows you to place the target in a high position for offhand, or low position for everything else.

I am considering that issue. My thinking is that I may not make the cardboard square as I show in my sketch but make it rectangular allowing a high and low position for the target. Even a one foot difference in the two positions would help and two feet would probably be enough that it is not noticeable. Also, some ranges are not level between the firing line and the target frame so that could be helped with this concept.

 

[Taildrag15X]

Yes, it is stapled to the frame, either wood or cardboard. I looked in "Range Standards" and there is nothing there relative to the requirement for the use of backers.

See you have a backer.....I would refrain from wood unless, like my frame drawings you have a hole for the bullets to pass thru covered by cardboard, the splintered plywood is not fun to be around.

I know at one time there was something in there about having a backer behind the target, it couldn't just be in the air by itself, who knows when that changed...

 

[chkunz]

See you have a backer.....I would refrain from wood unless, like my frame drawings you have a hole for the bullets to pass thru covered by cardboard, the splintered plywood is not fun to be around.

I know at one time there was something in there about having a backer behind the target, it couldn't just be in the air by itself, who knows when that changed...

Now I understand your meaning, I was thinking of the smallbore "backer" where they look for crossfires. Yes, the target should be attached to a backer, cardboard, plywood, etc. Thanks for staying with me until I get it.

 

[boltman13]

By having a rectangular target you can very target placement vertically to handle the standing vs prone problem. Also remember the 100 yd reduced prone targets are smaller. Having a hole in the target center is a help if you have a cardboard piece in front of it. At our range we use plastic corigated sheets and staple the target to them. When the sheet is worn out we simply replace it. Also wood is much more forgiving of a stray hit than PVC Pipe. Good luck.

 

[DRNewcomb]

A 100 yd club I once belonged to built target frames from 2x4s and plywood/cardboard. About 6' tall & 2' wide with two bases about 4' long and 45º braces between the uprights and base. About every 6 months we'd have a work day to reconstruct them. It was a small club and altho we did grouse about having to replace frames, considering the amount of rounds that went into the backstop, it wasn't all that bad. I don't recall exactly how the base was braced by the 45º sections. They may have been inside or in-line with the base. This frame is OK if you can reserve it for matches. Later we came up with frames set in holes in the ground as shown in the post above.

 

[Exercion]

Where I shoot, we have frames which hold two targets side by side. Sighter shots on the left, record on the right

 

[Taildrag15X]

Where I shoot, we have frames which hold two targets side by side. Sighter shots on the left, record on the right

I shot on a course like that a long time ago....and when Off Hand was scored I won with a low score as everyone else crossfired on the sighter target.....