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Bore Cleaners?

What are you all using on your stainless barrels? Anyone use Eds Red or Seafoam Engine treatment? With the Eds Red is the Acetone necessary? Will these eat the coating on a coated cleaning rod? Will these clean the copper or are they mainly for the carbon? Also are these safe for rimfire barrels?

Thanks
 
I'm using Bore Tech Eliminator, TM, and WipeOut with accelerator. So far, the Bore Tech seems to do the best job all around.

YMMV of course.

Dennis
 
DeltaBravo said:
I'm using Bore Tech Eliminator, TM, and WipeOut with accelerator. So far, the Bore Tech seems to do the best job all around.

YMMV of course.

Dennis

Up to now, I have used Patchout as well but I just gave Boretech Eliminator a try and it does seems to work well. The only downside I see is the possible false positives from using brass jags so I ordered some aluminum jags and brushes. Hopefully, that will make the tell-tale colors more meaningful but it did clean the barrel. I also tried the gel and like it as well.
 
TrxR said:
how does the boretech do on the carbon?

About as well as the PatchOut. It was hard to make a comparison with all the blue that was on the patches from the jag and brush, but the patches stopped showing any black after only a couple which is faster than the PatchOut. But they did get the barrel clean between the Eliminator and the gel. Just to check, I left some PatchOut in the bore after I was done with the Bore Tech process and the patches came out clean in the morning. I'm just wondering if I did more than I needed because of the discoloration from jag and brush. That's why I ordered the aluminum. We have a 3-day long range event this week-end so it should get a good workout.
 
The only method that gets all the carbon out is mechanical - brushing and or abrasives. PERIOD. Don't believe all the BS that the cleaner mfg's put out! carbon is INERT and does not react chemically with any bore cleaner!
 
+1 Boretech and wipeout. I use the Eliminator first then do wipeout with accelerator and it works great. NO more scrubbing for me.
 
I had a 6.5 284 I was cleaning with boretech and thought it was clean, lost 4g of powder charge due to carbon build up over time not knowing why.Finally I scrubbed the throat with jb paste and solved the problem so I agree with racesnake.
 
338 Mollett said:
I had a 6.5 284 I was cleaning with boretech and thought it was clean, lost 4g of powder charge due to carbon build up over time not knowing why.Finally I scrubbed the throat with jb paste and solved the problem so I agree with racesnake.

+1 my 6br seemed clean until it stopped shooting good. Thought the scope had gone bad and sent it in for repair, then shot with another scope and seemed OK at first, then same issue with accuracy. Scrubed with jb and got a LOT of carbon out, now I clean with jb each time.
 
TRXR -

Howdy -

Truth be known.. there's a whole bunch of bore cleaning solvents, foams et al... that work; and work well.

As for me... I went from Hoppe's #9 use for many years, tried Sweet's, moved-on to Butche's Bore Shine , then TM Solution.
For use on my Marlin M-336 XLR .35Rem, I tried my first use of a foaming bore cleaner.
It works superbly, and I clean the .35's barrel using only patches ( no brushing required ).

I've used Montana Extreme Bore Conditioner ( as the solvent ) by mistake, and IT cleans out the barrel really well, too !

It's all good !!


Regards,
357Mag
 
Racesnake IS right, I have try'd a lot of the magical no-scrub cleaners, then when the patch comes out sparkling white, I dip a bronze brush into a bottle of Speedy Formula (2/3 Hopes Black Powder and 1/3 Hopes #9) push it through the barrel 10 to 20 times and then push a tight patch wet with Boretech Eliminator and it ALWAYS pushes a TON of black crud out the end of the barrel.
Push another through, then push a loose patch soaked with eliminator (this is for copper) and let set 10 to 20 minutes, use a stainless or coated jag, repeat until very little or no copper.
Then repeat step 1, because depending on how filthy the barrel was there can be layers of carbon and copper.
The best thing about the Speedy Formula is that once the two solvents are mixed they become a gel that sticks to the brush and doesn't just run out the end of the barrel.

Dave
 
The absolute best is Warthog 1134 ……. the problem is Hazmat,he can no longer ship it. I tried all the ones mentioned and they average with Boretech Eliminator seems to do the best but it seems sticky ……. jim
 
338 Mollett said:
I had a 6.5 284 I was cleaning with boretech and thought it was clean, lost 4g of powder charge due to carbon build up over time not knowing why.Finally I scrubbed the throat with jb paste and solved the problem so I agree with racesnake.
What do you mean by losing 4 grs. of powder?
 
I agree with the above post, "If you don't use a brush you WILL get carbon build up". I learned the hard way. I used to use Hopes #9 with a brush to get the carbon out then I would start with Sweets 762. Never had any problems and when I had a chance to get my rifles bore scoped they usually looked pretty good.

The problem was my "WIFE" she hated the smell and would be grumpy for a day or two when I cleaned guns down in my "Hole" (What she calls my gun room). When Wipeout came along I tried that and it seemed to work well and she was happy with no more smell and all was good until I got a rifle that went to hell all of a sudden and I could not figure out why. Then one day when checking seating depth I had actually gained some throat area instead of loosing it.

To make a long story short I had carbon fouling in the throat and bad. After getting some good advice on here on how to get it out it is now shooting better again. SOooo... If you don't brush you "Will" be doing a lot of scrubbing one of these days, trust me!
 
Carbon build up was so bad in the throat It was causing pressure problems.When I would test loads for the next match I had to keep backing off the previous charge of powder, sometimes up to a grain and a half.
 
Best and fastest I've used are Montana X-treme products. Bore Cleaner, Copper Killer, and Bore Conditioner. All work extremely well. The Copper Killer smells strong. Won't harm your bore. Copper Killer was rated number one best copper remover by Gun Tests Magazine.
http://www.montanaxtreme.com/
 
how many of the guys that posted their barrel is clean verify by using a bore scope? If not how can you tell that it is. does Ed's reds work very well ? cliffe
 

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