I'm loading my first 30br. 4198 @ 33.8. Maybe an 8th to the top. Crushing that powder ! Compared to the 6bra bt 105's that'll stick in and stay there while I put the seater over it the 30br is a pita to hold, don't spill & set seater over it. My fingers do not work well because of a accident years ago. It would be easier on the press no doubt. Oh well, like I have the time to get all 200 done for fire forming.