Why the Change?

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  1. Madang185

    Madang185

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    As an Australian who has over more than 25 years purchased reloading items from the USA can any reader enlighten me why there is a sudden change? Many online stores have suddenly refused to sent
    items internationally. Two items of interest are the latest reloading manuals from Speer and Sierra. So I thought that a possible way out was via a freight forwarder. Nope, the word gun is in manuals , cannot send???? So are we now being censored by what we can read?
    Not the US that I knew.
     
  2. Stepsjframe

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    The right for civilians to own firearms is being question by the government and there are ripple reaction on those things.
     
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  3. spclark

    spclark Gold $$ Contributor

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    And for the vast majority of forum
    members here, I think it’s a safe bet that it’s not the US that we knew before either.

    Our founders made sure with the Bill of Rights to our US Constitution that the rights accorded to our citizens would be protected forevermore.

    Sadly it’s more apparent with each passing day that many of our elected officials kept their fingers crossed when they gave an oath to support and defend the Constitution when being sworn in to the offices our electorate chose them to hold.

    Add to that the malign interference of the United Nations, it’s not a situation we’re at all comfortable with either.
     
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  4. Dusty Stevens

    Dusty Stevens COVFEFE- Thread Derail Crew Gold $$ Contributor

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    Got 2 things here- anything firearms related must be regulated on export so if theres a question just dont do it.
    Second is while firearms may be somewhat untouchable with our constitution, all accessories needed to use them CAN be regulated and we’ll be seeing that more and more.
     
  5. SPJ

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    It’s a mess for sure
     
  6. NorCalMikie

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    Could be that it's a Australian thing and NOT a U.S.A. Issue?
    I remember back a few years, one of the Guys on the forum wanted a tactical style stock for a shot gun. Took it apart and shipped it in two different boxes per his suggestions. He got the first box no problem. The second one? Got held up in Customs and they went after him BIG TIME!! Took his computer but he had time before they got it to tell me that they treated him like a terrorist. Not sure whatever happened to him but from that day on, no more shipping anything to OZ from me.
    Customs can be pretty strange. Sister sent a blouse to a lady friend in Vancouver,Canada. Sister is married to a Guy that lives in a high rise on the Marina in Vancouver ($$$$$) but she owns her own home in California.
    Package got held up in Customs for about 6+ months. Just for a blouse???:mad:
     
  7. MGYSGT

    MGYSGT Silver $$ Contributor

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    I don't agree with the nonsense of not shipping overseas, but we can thank those supporting terrorist for that.
     
  8. shoot4fun

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    Back in the day when I taught armorer's classes I had to read a legal statement to each class on ITAR.
    My company's legal team decided that even the manual used by and distributed to all the students was ITAR material and, as such, could not be even disseminated on the internet in the USA. The reasoning was that the internet is world wide and it was viewed the same as sharing weapon technology with people in other countries. To me that was extreme interpretation but I did what they wanted.
     
  9. Baddog0302

    Baddog0302 Silver $$ Contributor

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    There is enough reloading data available on line that loading manuals are getting semi obstinate.
    Not sure but doesn't Sierra offer their data on line as a download option ?
     
  10. watercam

    watercam Gold $$ Contributor

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    Yes, those manuals can be obstinate if they have not had them morning Joe! Or they may be becoming obsolete? Not yet, but the end is near!
     
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  11. Darryll

    Darryll Gold $$ Contributor

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    I don't know how this was paid for, but could it be a credit card company?
     
  12. HandgunHTR

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    Someone above said it, but I am pretty sure that if you dig far enough you will find ITAR at the bottom of it.
     
  13. JimT

    JimT “I don’t even own a piece of camo!”-Kenny Jarrett Gold $$ Contributor

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    What did the vendor say when you asked them why they wouldn’t sell to you?????
     
  14. Madang185

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    One vendor failed to answer, the other simply stated that as from June 25 no overseas orders would be filled. No reason???? Have dealt with both for 20 years plus
     
  15. ihmsakiwi

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    It could be that they now have an in-country distributor also.

    I have dealt with a particular mail-order company for years in the mid-south (see what I did there?) also for reloading gear and they will now no longer supply me. When I dug deeper they said they now had a NZ distributor and as such couldn't supply me directly..
     

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