Just got back from an elk hunt. Glassed a herd around 1500 yards. Appeared to be all cows. I watched them for a few hours and low and behold a monster bull showed himself. I crept my way to about 700 yards. There was no chance of getting closer. Next time Im building a 338 of some sort. I took my 6.5x284 with 143x’s. Some could argue its doable but Im not comfortable for an ethical shot/energy at that distance. It was getting dark so I came back the next day but the herd moved onto the next unit which I dont have a tag for. Maybe next time!!!
Under gunned on elk hunt ughh
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PatMiles
Silver $$ Contributor
It's called tuition...the price you pay for valuable information.
Kudos for your decision not to shoot.
Anybody that has spent time hunting elk will tell you that the modern fad of the 6.5 isn't a good choice, unfortunately so many people parrot what they read on the BSnet that new hunters think that any 6mm cartridge will be fine - they aren't.
The .308 and 30-06 are common for a reason, they work. The .308 will drop elk reliably out to 500 yards and the 30-06 can stretch that range to 700 yards or so, any shot past those ranges is irresponsible and unethical. There are far too many variables that can effect the shot past 600 yards and it's just wrong to take live game past that range. There isn't any ethical reason to take a long range shot and while tons of people will brag about their successful 1000 yard plus shot they wont mention how many times they've wounded animals and lost them.
None of us will go hungry if we don't drop that animal so why take questionable shots with under-powered cartridges at unreasonable distances and possibly cause the animal to suffer a needless death.
The .308 and 30-06 are common for a reason, they work. The .308 will drop elk reliably out to 500 yards and the 30-06 can stretch that range to 700 yards or so, any shot past those ranges is irresponsible and unethical. There are far too many variables that can effect the shot past 600 yards and it's just wrong to take live game past that range. There isn't any ethical reason to take a long range shot and while tons of people will brag about their successful 1000 yard plus shot they wont mention how many times they've wounded animals and lost them.
None of us will go hungry if we don't drop that animal so why take questionable shots with under-powered cartridges at unreasonable distances and possibly cause the animal to suffer a needless death.
Don't believe you went under gunned, but I do believe you were wise to not have taken a un-ethical shot at that range. Even if you had a 338 mag, most people are still not able to make a good ethical shot at over 600 yrds, no matter what they say.
First hunt, you learned a lot and in the future it will pay off, for helping you hunt and find them within a distance that is more what it should be and you will get a fine Elk.
First hunt, you learned a lot and in the future it will pay off, for helping you hunt and find them within a distance that is more what it should be and you will get a fine Elk.
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muleman69
USMC -1st marine Div. RVN
Great post, my sediments exactly
muleman69
USMC -1st marine Div. RVN
Great call on your part, you have just became a pro-hunter and not a lobber. The long range stuff has gotten out of hand, to many cripples die a death they did not deserve. I found a monster buck this year that a lobber hit but did not find.
And you don't have to shoot the first or any animal you see.
If you have one tag that's it. And your hunt is over.
I enjoy it to much, and I want it to last.
This season I had 6 100% chanses before I shot my first deer.
When you shoot something it is so much work afterwards. It's much easier to let them walk and just enjoy the thrill of the situation. You know what I mean: fair chase and all that.....
If you have one tag that's it. And your hunt is over.
I enjoy it to much, and I want it to last.
This season I had 6 100% chanses before I shot my first deer.
When you shoot something it is so much work afterwards. It's much easier to let them walk and just enjoy the thrill of the situation. You know what I mean: fair chase and all that.....
10XSHOOTER
Gold $$ Contributor
A .300 Win Mag, with 180 Nosler Accubonds. would be perfect for that 700 yd shot. A Custom .340 WBY would be a great Elk gun With 250 accubonds.
My 2 favorite Elk rifles
My 2 favorite Elk rifles
Thanks everyone! The area was pretty thick, so I assumed everything would be inside 150 yards so I took my 6.5. Wow was I wrong! Now that Ive done it, I see the tough choice. Lugging around a long 338 would be a pain and would be hitting branches. I wonder how a 300 wsm 23” barrel would do? Im setting my limit next time to 500 yards. No more 6.5 cal for me. The barrel length to get the speed/energy was extremely annoying to carry. I appreciate the positive feedback, because when I got back to camp, people were pissed at me for not taking the shot. Wind was calm, I know I could place the shot. But the guilt of a wounded animal would haunt the hell out of me.
If you are ever in that situation again I would tell you what I told my hunting buddy. This year we both drew elk tags in WY unit 100. Very open terrain. We spotted a herd of elk 2 hours before sunset 600 yards out in the wide open. My buddy was not confident in a 600 yard shot with a 270. As time was running out I told him he had nothing to loose, just walk slowly towards the herd. He walked within 75 yards of 45 elk and shot a 330 bull. I couldn’t believe it. You never know until you try.
Doug Beach
Silver $$ Contributor
Hunting buddies who actually get mad when you don’t take a shot, are not your friends. Some friendly ball busting, sure. Anger, no.
Mulligan
Silver $$ Contributor
Your integrity is intact. We all know you made the right decision. What they think is of little importance.
CW
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