Just got back from an elk hunt. Glassed a herd around 1500 yards. Appeared to be all cows. I watched them for a few hours and low and behold a monster bull showed himself. I crept my way to about 700 yards. There was no chance of getting closer. Next time Im building a 338 of some sort. I took my 6.5x284 with 143x’s. Some could argue its doable but Im not comfortable for an ethical shot/energy at that distance. It was getting dark so I came back the next day but the herd moved onto the next unit which I dont have a tag for. Maybe next time!!!