The "Caring & Concerned for the Poor" Democrats
- Thread starter Eddie Harren
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Oh I think they got all the education they could stomach on Tuesday, November 8 and I sank in Wednesday, November 9
Remember, the Electoral College vote comes December 19.
Merry Christmas
Remember, the Electoral College vote comes December 19.
Merry Christmas
The last results I saw after Michigan and others were tallied was Trump won the popular vote by a bunch. Now if you take out all the cheating by Soras voting machines, the illegals, and the dead people and ones that voted twice, he won by a landslide. Hopefully voter ID and all the cheating will hey stopped. I noticed it was all one sided. Then the news media needs straightened out. Matt
The problem is that being poor needs to stop being a preferred lifestyle. I don't really know if it would work or not but I read a pretty good description of how a family of four could make $75K/year (tax free) by being "poor" for a living. There's a huge industry around here on milking SSI with children being coached on how to be "crazy" so that they can claim SSI benefits for life. It's as bad as the practice found in some countries of parents intentionally maiming children so they'll make better beggars.
There's an old saying that goes, "The best liberal is a good conservative." The problem is that as many conservatives as liberals got rich by firing workers and sending manufacturing jobs overseas. If you don't have the jobs that the poor can make a living at, what choice do they have? The only way to get the good jobs back here is to fix the tax laws to encourage production rather than discourage it. To keep on-topic, I'd say the only real domestic growth industry, the "shining star", has been in guns and ammo, for which thanks go to Obama.
There's an old saying that goes, "The best liberal is a good conservative." The problem is that as many conservatives as liberals got rich by firing workers and sending manufacturing jobs overseas. If you don't have the jobs that the poor can make a living at, what choice do they have? The only way to get the good jobs back here is to fix the tax laws to encourage production rather than discourage it. To keep on-topic, I'd say the only real domestic growth industry, the "shining star", has been in guns and ammo, for which thanks go to Obama.
I would like to think that would be the magic bullet but im afraid its not. In order for things to really change there is going to have to be a change in mentality. That requires work...and being sober...something most homeless people could care less about. For instances, this past summer in August here in Oklahoma, I had a landscape job come in from a local client that took me to the big city of Tulsa. While at the local Quick Trip I noticed a couple homeless guys standing on the corner of the intersection. As I drove by I pulled over next to them. Told them I had a small landscape job that required help...I needed them to haul limbs from the yard and load them on the trailer. I agreed to pay $50 per Hour per person. With a 2hr. Minimum....They looked at each other and then looked at me and shook their head and said "No Thanks, Not in this Heat"
Off I went to do the job myself....From that point on, I quit feeling sorry and quit donating....If you want Money....come get it, but its going to require "YOU" to do something....
Agree with Fred to a point. .......
Agree with Fred to a point. ........ I volunteer at a local homeless veterans shelter. For them, the VA is a sad failure. Some of these guys have become disillusioned to the point they see no hope. Many of them are eager to work but lack transportation. Some of them have limiting physical injuries (service related) and still others now have police records for vagrancy, petty theft, public drunkenness etc. which won't allow them to pass a employment background test. .......... Most (about 80%) respond positively to the programs & guidance we provide............. Please don't forget these needy guys. They've paid their dues and deserve the respect they've EARNED
I completely agree they deserve way more than they get. The hard part for me has been trying to distinguish between true Veterans and the phony....Not having ever been in the Military I don't know the correct questions to ask to quiz them if they are legit or not. For instance, last year there was a guy sitting outside of Wal-Mart selling Vet hats on Veterans Day. A good friend of mine that was with me that day was in Desert Storm back in the 90's he started talking to the guy and discovered he was completely lying about being a vet just to sell the hats. Nothing worse than someone trying to "play the part". Had my friend not been with me I would have been fooled that I was helping purchase from a true Vet.Agree with Fred to a point. .......
Agree with Fred to a point. ........ I volunteer at a local homeless veterans shelter. For them, the VA is a sad failure. Some of these guys have become disillusioned to the point they see no hope. Many of them are eager to work but lack transportation. Some of them have limiting physical injuries (service related) and still others now have police records for vagrancy, petty theft, public drunkenness etc. which won't allow them to pass a employment background test. .......... Most (about 80%) respond positively to the programs & guidance we provide............. Please don't forget these needy guys. They've paid their dues and deserve the respect they've EARNED
I know I'm going to get jumped on for this. I have a relative who works for the VA. His general comment is that it's important to keep in mind that many people entered the military because they were broken in some way and their time in the military didn't fix what was broken. The VA can patch up their physical ailments, help them with housing and in many cases give them a monthly check but curing what's wrong inside may be beyond what's possible. Also, many of the "hard case" Vets are "resistant to treatment".Agree with Fred to a point. .......
Agree with Fred to a point. ........ I volunteer at a local homeless veterans shelter. For them, the VA is a sad failure. Some of these guys have become disillusioned to the point they see no hope. Many of them are eager to work but lack transportation. Some of them have limiting physical injuries (service related) and still others now have police records for vagrancy, petty theft, public drunkenness etc. which won't allow them to pass a employment background test. .......... Most (about 80%) respond positively to the programs & guidance we provide............. Please don't forget these needy guys. They've paid their dues and deserve the respect they've EARNED
I'd be 1st to agree with you chaps. Our success rate is about 80% ......... rehabilitated and productive members of society. In some cases the VA is part of the equation. However, its only because we have some powerful government figures in our corner which the average ex-GI doesn't even realize exists. ........... It was the Reagan admin. that closed the government funded "funny farms" that previously kept the infirm off the streets. ........ I'm a conservative so cut me some slack on this. Just trying to pass on facts. I too have met supposed vets that can spout unit, MOS, dates and other details to the "T" but never served a day in their lives when we checked the records. Please remember there are some deserving and needy Vets out there that could use your help. ........ Teach a man to fish.
I always thought they stood for love, peace and understanding LOL
Many people wouldn't take a job if offered! Too much trouble getting out of bed in the morning! There's an entire segment of society that if given just enough to get by on.....that's all the disincentive needed to NOT WORK! The federal government has been subsidizing 'whoreism' for 60 years now by paying for every illegitimate child that some wench has brought forth and many of these kids can't even tell you who their father is!! For every one born out of wedlock....another check comes in the mail along with free medical care! And the working man is the fellow that winds up footing the bill! This is just another plan that was 'hatched' by the US Congress to buy votes including all the other programs that have burdened the working stiff who has grown DAMNED TIRED of footing the bill!!
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