"THE" 223 load thread....

Discussion in 'Small Stuff--22s, 20s, and 17s' started by Bradley Walker, Jul 10, 2012.

  1. Just to keep you happy... ;D
     
  2. Apparently, that 23.3 8208 load with 77s and 80s flat hammers too...
     
  3. mr45man

    mr45man Gold $$ Contributor

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    match prepped and weight sorted LC '04

    Ditch the LC brass you will do better
    John H.
     
  4. BoilerUP

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    From a Savage takeoff 26" 1:9 barrel on a 110 action:

    Hornady 75gr HPBT
    24.0gr Varget
    Nosler brass, fireformed, Lee Collet neck sized
    CCI-450
    2.28" OAL
    2840fps

    Hornady 75gr A-Max
    24.5gr Varget
    Nosler brass, fireformed, Lee Collet next sized
    CCI-450
    2.44" OAL (0.005" jump)
    2930fps
     
  5. jhord

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    Don't know the answer to the burn rate Q but Hodgdon have a fair bit of data on their site:

    http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

     
  6. FroggyOne2

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    LOL! Yeah being that there wasn't much of "Long Range" being discussed. Anything from 600 yards in is "Mid-Range"!
     
  7. bOY... yOU IS CRAZY,
     
  8. FroggyOne2

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    No, I am a man! And no I am not crazy, I am eccentric, I just don't have the money to prove it!
     
  9. Yes.
     
  10. I would try the 25 grains of 2015BR or R10x. Try 24-24.5 first. Somewhere in there you will find you max pressure.
     
  11. I hate these stupid CCI 400 primers!!! I had no idea they were thinner than my Federal 205s...

    Last batch of processed and primed LC 223 I got was primed with CCI 400's. They are not worth a crap for heavy bullet loads.
     
  12. BoilerUP

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    Ya know, I never had problems with CCI-400s until recently and then I was experiencing about 25% pierced primers.

    Made a switch to CCI-450s shooting the same loads, and those primers look perfect.
     
  13. It's been pretty hot... Your loads might have been fine in the winter.
     
  14. I tested loads in my Savage 1-8 Benchmark barreled bipod gun this weekend.

    R-15 at 24.5 grain with 77 SMK shot kinda kick *** considering the horrid conditions. I was shooting at 400 yards and could barely make out the orange quarter sized spot on the target. Mirage was UMMMM heavy!!!

    I was seeing about 1 inch of vertical. Lots of touching bullets in 10 shot strings.

    Do not use CCI 400's with this load. I had some real primer problems and I never had these problems with 205M primers, even in a AR-15.

    I shot the 23.3 8208 load. The group was round but not nearly as small as the R-15 load. Also, pressure was low, so I assume I could go up.

    There was a FOOT of vertical difference between the two loads at 400 yards.... The 8208 was slower by a lot... I apparently need to go up.

    The 8208 runs like a dream in the progressive. It throws to within .1 grain.
     
  15. fr3db3ar

    fr3db3ar There's no rest for the wicked......I'm tired

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    I've never had any problems with the 400s. Then again I'm only running up to 69s. We'll see about the new batch as I just picked up another 2k of them along with 2k of the 200s.
     
  16. FroggyOne2

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    A variance of +/- .1 is enough in the .223 to give you verticale provided that everything else is good to go.
     
  17. Not to be argumentative, because I am sure you have lots of experience with this, but isn;t that the point of OCW and ladder testing? Finding the "dead spot" in the charge amount where a slight change in charge does nothing?

    I would think shooting 90's like you do would make it much worse...
     
  18. I am going to thick cup primers only. The 400's are not really made for high pressure loads at all. In fact, I think CCI recommends these primers only for the low pressure cartridges under 40k PSI.

    I have Remington 7 1/2s and CCI 450s so I'm good.... The local store carries the new Wolf 223 primers, which is supposed to be made for high pressure loads.
     
  19. FroggyOne2

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    Everything is more criticle at 1K and with the small case of the 223, exspounds on it.
     
  20. fr3db3ar

    fr3db3ar There's no rest for the wicked......I'm tired

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    I'm almost glad that I can only shoot to 400. If I had access to 1K I'd have to get another scope or build some more drop into this one. Currently (theoretically) I can dial out to 800.
     

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