Still confused on f class classifications

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  1. Falfan2017

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    I understand that you need 120 shots to get a ranking. Is that for one year?

    Then say you have a master ranking in ftr at 600 you can reclassify with a certain number of shots. Does the average of all 320 shots have to be above the percentage to get high master?
     
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    It is all theory if the NRA Records room (with one person doing ALL the work) can not get to you anytime soon! My participation records stopped at 2015 for the longest time while I shot matches monthly ever since.
    With their money problems I do not see things improving anytime soon.
     
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    In F-class your classification is based on your percentage of the maximum points possible earned over 120 consecutive record shots. Let us assume you have earned your Masters classification at present. To be reclassified to HM you must shoot 98% of possible points in 120 consecutive record shots in the future. This means that you need to score 98% of 1200 points or 1176/1200. This means you could score a 594 one weekend and score a 582 the next and get your HM classification.
     
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    In my experience, it's the average of the newest recorded scores to get reclassified. That doesn't mean they get it right 100% of the time.

     
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    Ok so you just need a couple good matches reported to reclassify? I was wondering cause most of my shooting has been at 600 f open and I’ve had a hm for a while. But occasionally do 1000 yard matches. My first attempt was bad. Last year in 2018 with a gun that wasn’t real happy put up a pretty weak score. In the spring of this year I had a 575 and then in my third match on Saturday I had a 587. I was wondering if my first match from last year will bring me down.

    And then if I can get a good match over 590 at the next one I might go to hm?

    I know the rankings don’t matter much I just have a goal of getting hm in ftr mid and long and f open mid and long.
     
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  7. okshooter

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    There is not a separate classification for FTR and F-Open. It's just F Class.

    Yes, if you shoot a 589 or better at your next LR match that is either an approved or registered match (and the one you shot the 587 in is also one of these), you should get reclassified to HM. They have to be consecutive, so if you only shoot a 580 in your next match, you would have to shoot a 596 in the next match to get it.
     
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  8. Falfan2017

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    Thank you!
     
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    Also, there is separate classifications for Mid-Range and Long-Range. I hold a HM for MR only.
     
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  10. David101

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    Sorry Not competing in America. What are these rankings used for? In certain shooting classes in Australia we have classes like A and B these are based on your last 5 competitive shoots and are calculated as a % of the Top scorer on that day in your class.

    Its all computer generated and easily accessible to see you last 8 performances in any of the shooting classes.

    For the International classes such as F open and FTR there is only one grade which is A. For Target Rifle (sling shooters iron sights) there are A,B and C
     
  11. Falfan2017

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    Bragging rights I guess.
     
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    Haven’t read the tread yet, but classification is an accomplishment ladder to climb for the up and coming shooters. It tells them how they are doing in the field of other shooters. It’s actually very well thought out and does a great job for what it’s designed to do.
     
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    ^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^
     
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    Yep...and hoping on at least a 582 this weekend at Long Range Alley;).
     
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    Wind forecast Saturday looks doable for that but in Shreveport you just never know how it'll play out!
     
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    Keep in mind your matches may or may not be counted in chronological order. They figure the stats based on when they get the scores in, not the match dates.
     
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    Good luck Robin. One can always have hope!!
     
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    Think positive young man!! You WILL do it!
     
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    The 120 shots necessary for moving up in classification must be in chronological order, if fired in more than a single match. Otherwise, it would simply go off your highest 120 shots, regardless of when they occurred, or were actually received by the Competition Office.

    Although some use the classification system as a measure of their progress, I personally find it a little nebulous for that purpose. One can never know the prevailing wind conditions where other competitors shoot most of the time, so the average "degree of difficulty" of the range on which they earned a given classification is almost impossible to determine. I currently hold a High Master classification in midrange F-TR. However, I more than capable of shooting scores far below that level when the wind conditions are challenging ;).

    Another intended purpose for the classification system is to be used for squadding, especially at regional and national matches. Squadding based on a higher classification may not always work in your favor (i.e. although "benign" shooting conditions often occur in the first couple matches of the day, this is not always so), but it can sometimes have an effect on the outcome of a match.
     
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  20. David101

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    Thanks for the replies that is interesting. Does your classification change downwards as well? Is it a rolling average.
    In Australia if the class you are shooting in has grades we use a rolling average of your last 8 competition scores. To try and mitigate the different weather conditions the score you achieve is a % and it is a % of your score against the highest score for that class in that competition for the day.
     

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