RWS rimfire ammunition

Discussion in 'Rimfire & Smallbore' started by watercam, Feb 26, 2011.

  1. watercam

    watercam Gold $$ Contributor

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    After trying Eley Tenex and Club (including Rem. version), SK/Wolf, CCI Select and Green Tag, Fiocchi Super Match and New Ultramax I finally found a rimfire load that works well in my 52C - RWS R100. Lights out accurate at 200 yds.. No sorting necessary.
    Made a tuner of sorts that helped all the others but the RWS w/o a tuner is by far superior. Any one else ever use it? Pricey, yes but better than the rebarrel alternative I was facing. In the short run at least!
    Mike
     
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  2. CJ6

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    What speed is the R-100 ? I've been useing 1066-1073 EBB depending on temps ,and recently picked up some 1054 that came with a tuner equiped rifle I just purchased. We shoot from 25-160yds.
     
  3. DPSTX

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    The R100 is 1132fps. I have shot some in my Win52C but not enough to be conclusive. This rifle doesn't like Eley and has always shot the best with the old Federal UM1, which was 1120fps. This rifle (29" bbl)also consistantly shoots everything about 50fps fast (according to my chrony....)so it shoots UM1 at about 1170fps. I think the chrony is accurate, the UM1 shoots right at 1120 out of my short (20in)bbl'd Sporter . The 52C is always shot at 200 yards. The r100 is at the top of my list to try when I begin to run out of UM1.

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  4. CJ6

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    Thanks for the info. I've been shooting a BV Smithed 541X and a H&R M12 CMP, The new/used 1 is a Broughton barreled/W Harrel tuner H&R M 12 haven't shot this 1 yet.
     
  5. TRECustom

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    A while back I inquired about the ammo used by Anschutz to fire their 55 yard rimfire test targets. The answer was RWS R-50. At $18.95 per 50, I haven't tried it. I did just buy some SK to test. It worked out at $8 per 50. By far the most expensive .22 lr I have. I will try it in a Wby (Anschutz) MK XXII and a Kimber 82A. The Wby 55 yd test target appears to be in the high teens, but that's better than I am, so any decent ammo may be as good as I can shoot.

    I have seen several threads that weren't impressed with Eley, were impressed with one of the Wolf Match loads, which I believe is made by SK, but I've never seen anything that wasn't good about the RWS ammo. One of these days I'll try the R-50........................The voices will insist............

    Tom

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  6. CJ6

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    I've tried most manufacturers Except RWS and it's on my to order list for testing. I believe Champion has RWS R-50, R-100, and match or target ,so next time I order I'll try all 3. This Rimfire stuff is addicting, maybe moreso than Centerfire :eek: :eek: :eek:.
     
  7. Tommie D

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    I just wish I could find their .22 Magnum ammo here in the states.
     
  8. dtrostel

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    I have a rem 40x I just got done testing a lot of RWS - Subsonic HP and was not terrible impressed, avg 5-shot groups 0.75 at 50yds with no 2 shots touching in my groups, when the test lot of Eley Club (Orange Box) was a small cluster, around 0.2 Wolf match was also impressive.

    I am just testing under 8 dollar box ammo now though.

    YMMV,
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  9. watercam

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    For what ever reason, my Win. 52C just seems to like ammo that is a tad faster than typical match ammo. The old Win. Power Point @ 1280 fps, when weight and rim sorted, shot great! Hence this rifles preference for the R100. It also shoots CCI Select (@1180 fps) reasonably well when weight sorted but only at 200 yds.. Bullet probably needs to re-stabilize after going sub-sonic around the 50 yd. line.
    At least it shoots something well!
    Mike T.
     
  10. TRECustom

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    Mike, I don't know how to rimsort. What do you measure, and what's the acceptance range? When you weight sort, I guess you just weigh each cartridge and then sort by a weight tolerance. If so, what is an acceptable variation for a cluster? A grain or less?

    I also am a sucker for fine rimfire rifles, but know nothing about precision shooting with them.

    Thanks, Tom
     
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    I bought three different lots of Fed UltraMatch UM22 a year or so ago from Midway, which I understand is made by RWS - at least the boxes are marked "Made in Germany". Have tried it in some of my custom bbl'd 40Xs & an Anschutz 2011, but haven't been at all impressed with any of the three lots I received. Anyone know if this stuff is similar to R-50 or R-100?
     
  12. JMayo

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    I've got some eley for sale that'll shoot less than an inch at 50yrds .. .all day long. 10.00 a box.
     
  13. Fotheringill

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    In Anschutz 1913a 54 action, I find the RWS 50 on par with Lapua Midas+
    I found my load with Eley Black Box, but because of the various speeds, it was an arduous process.
     
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    Well you guys know how a 22LR can be but my Anschutz 1416 HB prefers RWS Target Rifle In the orange and black box, Newer stuff. You can still buy some in the older red boxes. It shoots .200-.250 at 50 Yards. Around .650-.750ish at 100 Yards and at $6.50 a box that is fine with me. My old Win 22 likes it also but a old Kimber I have does not like it. But that old Kimber will shoot SK STD + in a hole at 50 yards along with the old original UM1 which I am out of. But I have shot RWS- R50, R100, Match Rifle, HV HP's their HV HP's are quite accurate I have had three shot's cutting bullet holes at 100 Yards with a .850 5 shot group. But a few times I have fired them at 100 yards just for fun they were under 1" and three shots cutting. I never really have done a lot of shooting with them but they do seem quite accurate. Pricy unless you order a Brick in online.
     
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    You should also try Federal match and Ultra Match as they are both made by RWS for Federal, one of our club members just shot 2 IR50/50 targets with the ultra match and shot a 500-26x!
     
  16. Bart B.

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    Too bad none of the 22 rimfire match ammo made since about 1980 shoots as accurate as earlier stuff. All but 1 or 2 of the several 50 yard & meter and 100 yard prone open records set before then still stand.
     
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    R-50 is very accurate in our Annie Match 54 rifles. We use it at local IR 50/50 matches and do well. The R-100 is designed for 100meter shooting, but also works well in colder temperatures at 50meters due to it's higher MV. I use the RWS Target Rifle as practice ammo in the rifles. Acceptable accuracy with more flyer potential than the more expensive options. In general, RWS is a quality ammunition and a good performer IF YOUR FIREARM LIKES IT.
     
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  19. Bart B.

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    If ammo made today is head and shoulders better than anything ever done, why doesn't the NRA outdoor prone records show that?

    Any 22 rimfire BR folks shot good lots of pre-1980 ammo to compare?

    Please provide a link to rimfire BR aggregate group records or diameter of their 100 point ring. The ARA Rules don't mention it but looks like about half an inch. And 25 shots touching or inside it would score 2500?

    Stool shooters are not the only ones qualified to assess 22 rimfire accuracy. The NRA 50 yard target X ring diameter is .391 inch. Records with over 150 shots touching or inside that from prone still stand. That's with a 1/4 MOA hold area; not near zero benched.
     
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  20. Tim s

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    That’s because it is primarily a shooters game.
    As for various BR data.....do your own homework, it's all public.
    IR50, for instance, has a 1/4” 10 ring and an X that’s 1/32”.
    Call the ELEY or Lapua test facility’s and ask about the relative test results.
    I am very familiar withtop flight prone gear and a few smiths that build top flight equipment for both.
    As far as the initial question regarding ammo, I can put you in touch with a mulltiple national champ prone shooter that will tell you same, ammo todayis better, more consistant than ever before.
     

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