Primers inconsistency

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  1. Fred B.

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    in all the years of shooting, I have checked and re-checked brass, powder and bullets over and over.
    Never crossed my mind to check every primer before using, aside from weighing them.
    I picked up a primer to use and it didn’y Feel right, so I got my super glasses on and found this (wonder how I have used without knowing):

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  2. 338 dude

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    Is that the paper or some call it foil over the priming compound?
     
  3. Fred B.

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    That is the compound. Feels rubbery.
     
  4. 338 dude

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    Not good it will definitely have some sort of an affect on the round I’ve never noticed any of that ever but I have never really looked
     
  5. Fred B.

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    I now dump the primers in a tray, take a picture with my iPad and zoom in to inspect all of them quickly.
     
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    Oh my. First I ever saw anything like that.

    Probably because I never looked. Ouch.
     
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  7. Texas10

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    It's my understanding that the paper, or foil as it's also called, is a manufacturing convenience and has nothing to do with performance or shelf life of the primer.
     
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    Yes, that's my understanding of the foil as well. And I might add that the foil has such a low flash point that it doesn't really interfere with the ignition regardless of its position.

    However, in looking at this one, the foil being offset like that may have compromised it's purpose, which is to help manufacturing equipment distribute the ignition compound evenly at the bottom of the primer cup without some of it sticking to the pin that presses it down flat into the cup. It's consistency during manufacturing is kind of a sticky paste. So, in this case, some of compound may have stuck to the pin that presses it down since the foil was out of place, which if so would compromise the ignition.
     
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    It would be interesting to load and shoot that oddball to determine it's effect.
     
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  10. Bill K

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    From the looks of the photo, it appears that foil/compound slipped over in the process of setting the anvil over it.
    More than likely would still fire and very little, if any, notice would be seen in the fired round.
     
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    Id like to see where it went on paper
     
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  12. 243winxb

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    Would BR4 primers have better quality control?

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  13. Bill K

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    It would be interesting, and I would bet if you fired it among four other rounds you could not tell any difference. But we will never know, will we ?
     
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    I still have it and hopefully I will load a round with it soon and see.
    It takes me 4 hours driving to get to shoot 1000 yards (Williamsport).
     
  15. Fred B.

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    How old is that chart?
    This is a 450 primer and according to your chart it should be blue.
    All 450s are yellow.
     
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  16. Bill K

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    Please do, let us know. If it fires, I am going to say you will not see any difference in the group you fire.
     
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    They have the 250 Mag in the small rifle section?
     
  18. 243winxb

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    No idea. Internet pic.

    Blue is the APS Strip color code.? :confused:

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  19. 243winxb

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    Read the "Product Usage." :rolleyes:

    I dont know. Ask CCI.?? :D
     
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  20. Texas10

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    CCI says that only the best skilled and most experienced associates are allowed to work the BR2 and BR4 line.
     
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