Long Range 22 cal suggestions

Discussion in 'Small Stuff--22s, 20s, and 17s' started by Carolina Man, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. MrMajestic

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    Less than 200 but the next one, I own my reamer, should not take the load development this one took. I built it for H1000 but it is not slow enough. Anything over 500 rounds will be a bonus IMHO. I only use it when 8-1400 yard shot could happen and that ain't often in SC PA but I have a couple of spots. Also I "know" some people for chambering... It's not for everyone.
     
  2. Chfcemerson

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    22 Dasher without question. Mine has been dominating my shoots. Berger 80g. H4350 35 grains. You wont be sorry.
     
  3. 284winner

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    Well sounds like your realistic. I was thinking closer to 1000. A 7 twist would definitely get you down around 600+. Curious for sure. Contemplating a build similar. Maybe 22-243 ai with an 8 twist. Looking to run the 80 Amax too. 3400-3600 is fine. Thinking I'd like to get an honest 1000-1200 Rds on a barrel. I think that 22-284 is definitely a screamer to be reconed with.
     
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  4. Carolina Man

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    Is the 7828 any better or is it faster then the H1000?
     
  5. Carolina Man

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    There are so many of new hot rod 22's that it's hard to keep. But most sre not really new. Just new names to old cartridges from days past. Just like the 22-6 mm, same as the old 224 Clark, both made on7~ mauser down to 25 for 257 Roberts then the 6 mm Rem. All the same brass..22-243 same as the old 22 Cheetah MK1 or mk2 had the large primer pocket. Most of the the others are something close to the 22-22-250 or the 220 Swift. 22xc is based around a 22-250 size case. Probably about what this 22 Creedmoor is. Maybe a little closer in case capicity to 220 Swift. I have a 220 Weatherby Rocket, Swift based case, pushes a 80 gr bullet a little over 3500. Mr majestic is getting about 3700 with a lot more powder.

    My current project is a 22 Dasher. Have all the parts except the reamer, due here Jan 16th. This will be setup for the 75-80 gr bullets. Really not sure what to expect out of it except some better barrel life and better brass. Norma brass. Is too sft, winchester brass needs a lot of work and Remington brass is just one step above junk, my opinion only.

    After that I am thinking very seriously about Mr Majestic 22-284. Sound like a real hot rod.

    But do love to hear everybodys ides and sucesses.
     
  6. 284winner

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    The 22-250 ai is another good hot 22 round. Right around what the Swift will do and probably keep barrel life pretty well( compared to the bigger case 22s). It's kinda what I've settled on before reading on the 22-243 ai or 22 creedmore. I guess I have all winter to research the choice more. Either way, by spring time I'll have an action and barrel ready to begin the project.
     
  7. MCR

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    I have rechamber my 22-250 AI to a 22 Dasher, all i can say is it is very accurate 4.8mm group at 100m with 75gr A-Max.
    The velocity is 3432fps.The barrel also doesn't heatup so fast as the 22-250 ai did.I am very happy!:)
     
  8. VaRandy

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    I would vote for my .224 Vais which is the 6.5 x 55 Swede throwing 80 gr Berger at 3560 very tight! I would not use one the hot for paper because of barrel wear but for hunting it is incredible. It is a 1000 yard plus solution for eastern groundhogs and kills with authority.
     
  9. MrMajestic

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    I'm pretty sure, without looking, it's faster. I did H1000, slow velocity/ less than case full/pressure issues. Then H870, a little better but not much. Then RL33 and happiness! I have room for more but it was doing all I asked so I just stopped.
     
  10. Tommie

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    I've never shot my 22-250 AI and truly wished it was any more or any less than what it is. Sure, sometimes a lesser capacity cartridge would do just as well. And there are times when a mega-overbore 22 caliber might have bought me a hit or two. But as far as hotrod 22's are concerned it's still hard to beat the 22-250 AI and the good old Swift.
     
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    So..... If you were going with a 22-47L and you wanted to run 90gr pills, what twist would you run? Sierra is suggesting a 6.5 twist, which is really fast..... Can you stabilize them in a 7 or 7.5 twist?
     
  12. Bobthenailer

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    I am currently working on a load data book for the 22-284. I have accumilated several load notes and have tested some in my 22-284. My accuracy load uses H1000 under a 75grain A-max.
     
  13. 22BRGUY

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    Really good question!
    I am considering a 22 dasher with 90's but looked at the Berger site and they suggest a 6 twist to stabilize!?%@#&. In my looking around so far the fastest 22 cal twist I could find in barrels was 6 1/2, although I've read here that guys are stabilizing them with 7's quite well. Those 90's sure look like something fun to try though.
     
  14. Phil

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    I REALLY want to try the 90`s out, but with the new 6mm 110 and 115 bullets out there, i have my plate full of things to try.......

    Those 90`s are sexy though......:rolleyes:
     
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  15. USMCDOC

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    i used to use a 7.2 twist and it did just fine! I wouldn't worry too much about using a 7 twist, it should be just fine! Esp since your going to be driving that bullet a lil faster than what would be generated with a .223, take that into consideration..
     
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    Thanks Doc...Appreciate the info.
     
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    Seems like you've got what I GOT...LOL....Wonder if I caught it from you or you from me??? Would seem like those 90's with a load of either 8208 or Re16 would be really fun!
     
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  18. Phil

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    I`m sure we`re not alone.........;)
     
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  19. USMCDOC

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    When i was doing the 22BR, i was running 32.5 grs of RL17. Next best was H4350, but i don't remember what the charge weight was, but i am sure that it was close in the neighborhood to the RL17 load.
     
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    Your welcome sir!
     

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