help indentify and value

recent purchase , seller states 1407/1807

 

Appears to be an 1807 vs. an earlier 1407. The swept back bolt handle and cone shaped rear of bolt are two clues. Value? Hard to say. Maybe $800 - 1200? I'm sure that there are other forum members here that can give a better estimate.

Mike

 

Since it is a LH action/LH stock model with side safety it can't be a 1407.

Given the bolt and trigger and stock, I'm going to guess 1607, a transition model between 1407 and 1807, usually with an X suffix in the serial number. The 1807 stocks I've seen have an adjustable cheekpiece.

Or it could simply be an 1807 in a modified 1407 stock with LH bolt cutout. Need pictures of the trigger and both sides of the stock. Does the serial number have an X?...Tom

 

Serial number ends with X

 

1607 then. I'm not sure if Anschutz ever officially used the 1607 designation as it's a transition model (X) between 1407 and 1807.

Rare left hand version, no RH bolt cutout, top of the line (current production) trigger, first I've seen in that configuration...Tom

 

Take the bolt apart and post a picture of all the pieces. I am curious as to what firing pin you have in there. The x series rifles usually had the 5071 trigger, which mainly has a different sear than the 5018 to work with the different pin.

 

I want it if you don't. Some models have been brought into the country used, that were never sold here new.

 

No need to take it apart just post a picture of the bottom of the bolt, if there is a slot running the length where you can see the firing pin it is a 1600 series rifle, I bet it will be solid with no slot making it an early 1807. the trigger is showing an 18 on it making an 5018

 

The 5018 trigger and 1807 bolt is what makes an X rifle rare. A picture of the bolt would be interesting but as said, it's likely an 1807 bolt given the trigger.

Lee, The X makes it a 1607, or transition rifle. I suspect you missed that in his reply.

Being a transition rifle, as I understand, there is no set standard for 1607 as 1607 doesn't officially exist. Let's call it a late transition rifle?

As stated, the stock is also a transition stock. The 1807 stock has an adjustable cheekpiece. His stock is essentially what was for a RH action, 1407 stock for a LH shooter (as there were no LH Match actions), albeit now with a (transition) LH bolt cutout and adjustable (1807) butt plate. The only LH actioned 1607 I've seen.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it until Tim say's otherwise!...Tom

 

Tom, I didn't miss that it has an X in the serial number. however from what I understand it being a 1980 production which makes it the first year production 1800's there were a few 1800 that were built off the X receiver. someone a few years back on RFC had an example of a confirmed 1800 with an X in the serial number.

Lee

 

Sure, but the stock is also pre-1807, the only one I've seen like that. It's a 1407 stock with a LH bolt cutout.

Where did you get 1980?...Tom

 

Ok I miss read his post on RA he said purchased new in 1980 so it could be a 1979 (barrel date code should be HK), however the trigger is a 5018, but it could be a 5018 with the 5071 sear catch. only way to clear up what model this really is, and that is for him to post a picture of the bottom of the bolt.

Lee

 

No cut out in bottom of bolt

 

I bought a similar rifle last summer. X serial number. Solid bolt. 5018 trigger. Non-adjustable cheek piece. It was recently imported.

 

Ok Thanks, what you have is an early 1807 and what has been a lot of confusion is the serial number and stock. but more then likely because it is a left-hand action they used a 1607 left-hand stock.

Lee

 

ok guys
Thanks for the information
All ready to go out and play

 

REASONS IT IS NOT AN 1807:

1) (Presumably) It doesn't say 1807 on the barrel. 1807s are marked as such. Is it marked 1807 on the barrel?

2) It has an X serial number. Legend has it that X barrels are different than later barrels.

3) It is not an 1807 Stock. It is a 1407 Stock which was used on 1607 rifles.

This is an 1807 Stock:

 

.One last question does the 3-numbers stamped on the face of the bolt match the last 3 of the serial numbers?
this will verify that this is not a parts gun and an very early production 1807.

Lee