Went to the Silver Spur Gun Show in Abilene Texas yesterday. Stopped at a custom knife makers table and noticed a Manners T4 stock. Looks unused with an AICS bottom metal of unknown make. Asked about price which in turn had me remove my glasses to better inspect the stock. After a bit I asked "What's wrong with it?". Seller replied he took it as payment for a custom knife. I bought it at $250 out the door. Best deal at a gun show ever!