Can you suggest a good substitute for the 284Win?

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  1. VaniB

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    At one time about 10 years ago I had considered having a Rem 700 custom rifle smithed for me in the 284. The intent is to have a long action rifle in the 7mm/284 caliber that is capable of long range, but will mostly be used for 1/4" MOA target shooting at the 100 yard public range. There have been so many new fat cased cartridges in the last 15 years that I can't keep up with them.

    I prefer a 284 cal cartridge that is no less powerful as the 284Win, but is not rebated at the rim and does NOT hold more powder then the 7mmMag. It's ok if it's long action, but I prefer something I can handload for 1/4"- 3/8" MOA potential. Or do you think the 284Win case is still a good choice?
     
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    For kicking around at 100yards mostly I would probably stick with the 284.

    But in answer to your regarding 7mm, non rebated rim, 7mm and more capacity than the 284.......... that easy.

    7mm SAUM!!
     
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    Without a doubt, I would pick a .280 Remington (but then I'm a little biased). No muss or fuss with fireforming or special dies, can easily match or exceed .284 velocities when loaded to equivalent pressures rather than the archaic levels randomly chosen by Remington at its inception, easy to find brass (or make your own from .30-06), feeds cleanly and with carefully crafted loads in a good barrel can meet your accuracy wants. Nothing wrong with the AI version if that's the way you lean, but the standard .280 loaded as it should be loaded, gives up surprisingly little velocity to its AI brother. Yes, AI brass will probably require a little less trimming, but .280 brass is cheap.
     
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    If you are only going to shoot 100yds a 7 .08 will kick ass every day all day. I shoot 7 .08 ai and 7 .06ai one for the shorts out to 600yds and the other to 1000yds.
     
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    tell me again what’s wrong with the 284 winchester?
     
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    What size bolt face ya got?....some of the cartridges listed take a magnum and others (what I call standard) 308/.470...this will help with recommendations.
     
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    It's won it's share of fake wood.
     
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    I feel Bad :(
    Just finishing a .284 F-Class Rifle .

    I say 7-08 . 100 to 1000 a Winner . Had one .


    If only 100 yards I would go 6 BR ?
     
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    50 BMG?
     
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    You do realize the SAUM has a rebated rim, don't you?

    I don't see the big deal with a rebated rim unless your bolt has trouble picking it up which is why I'm building a 284 Winchester.
     
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    Hardly rebated, barely 20 thou.
     
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    How much do you think 284 is rebated?
     
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