Barrel thread question.

[paulT]

Swapping out barrels with my f open rifle and i noticed one of the barrels seems to have double the amount of movement just before torqing to action compared to the other barrel, question is what is the acceptable amount of tollarance play there should be between barrel thread and action just before torqing tight.

 

[GenePoole]

Put a dial indicator on the action and with the barrel half-way screwed in, measure the movement at exactly 2.5 inches down the barrel from the action face. For every thou of movement, subtract 0.3 MOA.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Do some research on thread classes and their respective tolerances. They all have tolerances and can be within spec while one is looser than the other. One can be too tight and be out of spec just as easily as it can be too loose. I'd much rather have one that's a little loose as opposed to tight. The shoulder does the squaring up of the barrel to the receiver.

 

[carlsbad]

Thread fit is not important. The most common mistake novice gunsmiths make is fitting the threads too tight. You don't want too loose a thread since that would be unsafe. but that isn't generally a problem.

One thing I do see is barrels threaded for standard remington actions used on actions that have been trued and have oversize threads. these are VERY loose. I don't consider it acceptable but am not aware of an incident of one blowing out. Still, I strongly recommend not doing it.

Tighten it up tight and any difference in performance is not associated with thread fit. --Jerry

 

[BoydAllen]

Put a dial indicator on the action and with the barrel half-way screwed in, measure the movement at exactly 2.5 inches down the barrel from the action face. For every thou of movement, subtract 0.3 MOA.

Really? I disagree completely. The most accurate barrel that I have for my 6PPC has threads that are not just a little loose. they are very loose. V threads self center as they are tightened.

 

[boltman223]

Put a dial indicator on the action and with the barrel half-way screwed in, measure the movement at exactly 2.5 inches down the barrel from the action face. For every thou of movement, subtract 0.3 MOA.

Really? I disagree completely. The most accurate barrel that I have for my 6PPC has threads that are not just a little loose. they are very loose. V threads self center as they are tightened.

Yep, totally true, ive seen this at least 21 times.

 

[GenePoole]

I forgot to put a smiley on my post.

 

[Roeder]

Really? I disagree completely. The most accurate barrel that I have for my 6PPC has threads that are not just a little loose. they are very loose. V threads self center as they are tightened.

Could Mr. Poole be pulling our leg?

 

[paulT]

Thanks for replies.

 

[Will Henry]

Put a dial indicator on the action and with the barrel half-way screwed in, measure the movement at exactly 2.5 inches down the barrel from the action face. For every thou of movement, subtract 0.3 MOA.

Would this figure be appropriate for a Savage, with a barrel nut, as well? Also, is peening the threads to reduce the slop an effective way to get this .3moa per thou back? I ask because it appears my Savage is set up to give me about 4 moa at best so I don't see any point in shooting it as is. WH

 

[carlsbad]

Will. that post was pulling our leg. Read the rest of the thread. Thread fit isn't your problem. Don't damage the threads, they are fine.

sounds like you need a new barrel.

--Jerry

 

[jr600yd]

Could Mr. Poole be pulling our leg?

Better than pulling your finger. Hehehe......

 

[Will Henry]

Would that be pulling our leg or legs? This is where these threads get confusing; a lack of clarity. I'm still not clear on just what I should be subtracting this .3 moa from. In fact, I suspect I should be adding the .3 moa; I'm just so confused. It's embarassing enough shooting a Savage and now I learn my threads suck. On top of that, I don't think my bolt head floats. WH

 

[Ggmac]

Would that be pulling our leg or legs? This is where these threads get confusing; a lack of clarity. I'm still not clear on just what I should be subtracting this .3 moa from. In fact, I suspect I should be adding the .3 moa; I'm just so confused. It's embarassing enough shooting a Savage and now I learn my threads suck. On top of that, I don't think my bolt head floats. WH

Savage bolt heads only float when using the original helium filled bolt body! Took me a lot of bolt heads fished out of the pool to find that out . Without the helium filled bodies the bolt heads sink like a rock , go figure . I guess it was in the fine print I didn't read .