Auto throw and trickler for Sartorius
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The Sartorius Entris & Adams Trickler is what my combination has been for years. Nice toys, but I have no experience that says this combination would show on paper vs. other scales that were some what less precise.
Ben
Ben
My buddy uses a pair of them (Sartorius/AutoTrickler) every week. Loves them. You can’t go wrong with it or the A&D.
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Sartorious works fine. However, if I were to get another set-up it would be the A&D/Autotrickler/thrower as I see no advantage with the Sartorious and it cost a bit more than an A&D. I only bought the Sartorious because I used their analytical balances in a prior life and know, from that experience, that they are at the top of the crop. For purposes of weighing powder to the nearest kernel an A&D would be more than adequate.
dgeesaman
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I have v3 autothrower/ Autotrickler with a Sartorius Entris.
The scale is accurate that’s for sure. It seems to register to within .002 grains. The autotrickler does bounce out a kernel of powder once in a while which I assume comes from the Entris’ tall enclosure. The Autotrickler consistently stops between .03 low to dead on. I can trickle in a final kernel or two if I want to do it.
I don’t love that I have to eliminate an entire side panel of the Sartorius enclosure in order for the trickler. I don’t have a solution to that either. If I’m moving back and for th from my weighing area to seat bullets I need to take care.
There is a moment when it goes from full speed trickle to a slower trickle where the scales delay to register the added weight can mess with the trickler logic for a moment. It’s probably just my adjustments though.
Cleanout is easy. Shut off the thrower, manually cycle it a few times, empty the cup. Pull the thrower container and empty it. Then I lift up the trickler and dump powder from its reservoir, the tube, and reservoir again. No stray kernels to be found.
Overall it’s an impressive setup. I would be willing to trade for a bit more speed / less lag in my scale and lose the extra digit of measuring accuracy.
The scale is accurate that’s for sure. It seems to register to within .002 grains. The autotrickler does bounce out a kernel of powder once in a while which I assume comes from the Entris’ tall enclosure. The Autotrickler consistently stops between .03 low to dead on. I can trickle in a final kernel or two if I want to do it.
I don’t love that I have to eliminate an entire side panel of the Sartorius enclosure in order for the trickler. I don’t have a solution to that either. If I’m moving back and for th from my weighing area to seat bullets I need to take care.
There is a moment when it goes from full speed trickle to a slower trickle where the scales delay to register the added weight can mess with the trickler logic for a moment. It’s probably just my adjustments though.
Cleanout is easy. Shut off the thrower, manually cycle it a few times, empty the cup. Pull the thrower container and empty it. Then I lift up the trickler and dump powder from its reservoir, the tube, and reservoir again. No stray kernels to be found.
Overall it’s an impressive setup. I would be willing to trade for a bit more speed / less lag in my scale and lose the extra digit of measuring accuracy.
bozo699
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rardoin,
I have a GD503 do you think the Autotrickler/thrower would work on it okay?
Wayne
bozo699
Gold $$ Contributor
I also have a Sartorius with Adam's V3 system. My scale is the Entris 128 and it registers to .001 grains. That level of accuracy is not really needed, but it was the only scale I could find a couple years ago when I needed one.
I love my setup. It repeats well. The only "issue" I have is the scale is so sensitive that temperature changes can make it drift on the order of .005 to .010, which really is not significant. That said I just retare when it gets close to .010 drift. Ben says a static mat might help....
I love my setup. It repeats well. The only "issue" I have is the scale is so sensitive that temperature changes can make it drift on the order of .005 to .010, which really is not significant. That said I just retare when it gets close to .010 drift. Ben says a static mat might help....
bozo699
Gold $$ Contributor
Thank you David I don’t know why I didn’t see this until now
Wayne
bozo699
Gold $$ Contributor
Alfred,
I believe my scale is a Gd503 I’m not where I can look at it but pretty sure and it’s square with two side that open and top that slides open do you think this system could be adapted to mine? Currently I use a 1500 chargemaster set low then transfer to the Gd503 and trickle with a Omega trickler and it works well but really be nice to get the chargemaster out of the equation.
Wayne
I use one and have been for the last two years. I got one when I started messing with PRS competitions.
I love it for loading large runs of 50 or more. Mine predates the v3 But I think I have every option Area 419 offers for it. All useful and valuable upgrades.
Loaded up 100 rounds of 308 using 175 VLD's. It is ready before I am with an accurate throw to the kernel.
shooterjon
Silver $$ Contributor
I have a complete V3 auto trickler for a Sartorious for sale.My Scale took a dump AND after sending it in for repair I was informed that they wanted $2002.00 to fix it, WELL heck I could buy another scale brand new for about $1000.00.Decided to go in another direction.
If you are interested in buying my V3 drop me a line.
Shooterjon
I have one of each, the sartorius side panel-was not an issue. I just drilled an 0.375” hole and run the tube in. I’m still open in the front to pull out the pan, etc. I think the sartorius is a nicer scale, the A&D is fine too. The A&D is faster. Accuracy of both is the same to me
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