Discussion in 'Gun Project Questions & Gunsmithing' started by NDN, May 3, 2009.
Any one did this before, if so what all did you do and what did you use.
I love Mausers and have several custom and stock rifles. DON'T try to make a competition or tactical rifle out of one! You will have a lot of money in a rifle that is not competitive.
Check out todays results on the Pa 1000yd site, the previous heavy gun world record,3.151') was broken a couple weeks ago in North Carolina,3.048') and also today at Pa 1000yd range,3.137'). The shooter today was using a Mauser action, 300 Wby.
Just wanted to point out something to you that might help you make your decision suitable actions.
You ain't up to date. The record was set a couple weeks ago at Hawks Ridge. It was a 3.048 group. Do a search on the home page with pics of the target and Joel Pendergraft's rifle.
I am up to date I said that the previous world record by Jon Voneida of 3.151' was broken twice-a couple of weeks ago and today. I know that Joel Pendergraft has the new record. I was pointing out how well a mauser action rifle could shoot because ndn wanted to know about building a rifle on a mauser action.
Dan, In all honesty would you recommend any body to base a competition rifle on a Mauser?
The mauser had the world record,HG) several times since 1968 and also many yearly aggs,I'm including a couple of Sakos), some were barrel blocked some not. You and I know that a barrel block can do wonders even BATs are barrel blocked. HG rifles are in the majority barrel blocked. I've seen Joel's rifle a the super shoot last year here in Pa. I know about ignition jump, triggers, lock times, etc, but a mauser,tuned) can do it in the right hands. In LG, a person would have a rough time making a competitive mauser rifle, but if it is what the guy has on hand and don't have a lot of money-do it.
I won't engage in a pissing match, but i answered your question, and I have one for you--how would you explain this mauser actioned rifle shooting like it did today? I don't believe its luck or a fluke. Dan
Call it a pissing match or not. I asked you, would you recommend a guy start with a Mauser? Most people have neither the time or money to make one competitive. Do you see a rush to the Mausers? Yes, it was a labor of time and love. It is kinda like the 600yd record at .384 with a 308. Do you see a rush to the 308?
No I wouldn't recommend a mauser especially with the costs of tuning up the action, ,especially if its military), getting a block, etc when a custom action can be had for $1000 or less that is ready to go. However, they can be competitive as shown today.
I was just wanderin, I was looking at guns of the week and did not see any mausers, but I do have 3 of em and some day I would want to make some kind of shooter out of one. I like mausers. But don't know a whole lot about em.
Please be more specific if you want reasonable answers. What are your requirements etc.
I'm with Butch here, Mauser action has many virtues but being a competitive LR/BR action isn't one of them.
Mauser is more suited to situations where reliable feeding, positive ignition and positive extraction are desired. Many of the features I mentioned are kind of counter-productive for a LR rifle.
You could build a tactical rifle from Mauser,see Win70, FN etc.) but there's better choices for less money,less money after all is said and done). For one thing, if you're familiar with Mausers you know their lock time sucks,and rocks, the gun I mean...)
I'd say a replica of WW2 sniper rifle would be a nice way to build upon Mauser action!
Interestingly, I just finished building 2 of them, and have 2 more on my bench. It probably depends on what your goals are, your expectations, and funding.
2 Brazilian M1908's for my son's in .308 Win caliber and went shooting on last Wednesday. Fired 25 rounds for break-in and sighting of Adam's rifle as he had to work, then shot 30 rounds in the OCW method,http://optimalchargeweight.embarqspace.com/#). Home made muzzle brakes, aluminum firing pin with steel tip, 26 lb firing pin spring, Wisner side-swing safety,great device), Richard's microfit stock,http://rifle-stocks.com/), Simmons 6.5-20 mil-dot scope, A&B #54 barrel,24'), Lauer paint on the steel, Krylon on the stock.
My oldest shot his right along side me,his rifle did perhaps a bit better, but he chose a 26' no taper barrel,it's a brute), and his firing pin is aluminum/titanium).
Sierra 110 gr varmint hollow-points, LC brass, Accurate 2460, in .4 gr increments from 45.1 to 48.5 grains. Chrono said 3150+, target says I need to shoot better.
Here are pics of the 1st day of shooting to test what handload works best. 100 yd targets.,Adam had to work, so I was shooting his rifle. Travis did slightly better, but he has a 26' no-taper heavy barrel)
We built a Mauser for a competition rifle and smithed it ourselves so there wasn't a lot of special prep that went into it. With the 87gr VMax it would group about 3/8' reliably. Not good enough to win a decent BR match. It does do well in balloon shoots, silhouettes, and clays. So with basic accuracy tuning tips in squaring the action, cleaning up the threads, cutting a chamber and fitting the barrel tenon into the receiver you can make a decent rifle for fun shoots.
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