30 Cal A-tips

[Jdne5b]

There is huge disparity in price, abroad. Our stateside price is more like $80. I don’t think this gap is Hornady’s doing, at all. $131 versus about $80 means that others along the chain are actually making more from each bullet than Hornady is, having designed and manufactured the product.

Plus tarrifs, taxes, vat, some of which may apply.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

There is huge disparity in price, abroad. Our stateside price is more like $80. I don’t think this gap is Hornady’s doing, at all. $131 versus about $80 means that others along the chain are actually making more from each bullet than Hornady is, having designed and manufactured the product.

Powder Valley has the 230s and 250s @ $71.06/100 right now.

Merry Christmas.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

This arrived yesterday, Boxing Day.

 

[Bindi2]

There is huge disparity in price, abroad. Our stateside price is more like $80. I don’t think this gap is Hornady’s doing, at all. $131 versus about $80 means that others along the chain are actually making more from each bullet than Hornady is, having designed and manufactured the product.

The exchange rate puts them into the mid $120 just to buy then shipping , import duty, freight to wholesaler , wholesaler mark up + GST, then freight to retailer +GST then mark up to end user including GST. The GST is claimed back at all points except the last. This is a insidious tax that pushes the price up along the chain. The Government is the money maker.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

I finally opened the box.

Oh, shiny.

 

[Earnhardt]

Any range reports on these yet?

 

[aussiepowderburner]

I shot them to 2300 yards yesterday. They look like the real deal.

The gun is a 32" 1:8 Bartlein 5R chambered in 300 Norma. Conditions were very still, muzzle velocity was 3090 fps, SD was 6 fps, and they were probably down to 1150ish fps at the target. They beat the AB CDM by about half a mil and held vertical better than anything else I've tried.

That's just one trip, ymmv.

Just trialling these pills in my .300 Norma also
Running them with Re33 and comparing to 230 H
What powder are you using?
I have a 1/10 Krieger 31” and 230 H naked running 3080fps so similar?
Did the advertised BC stack up in real world come ups?

 

[aussiepowderburner]

Plus tarrifs, taxes, vat, some of which may apply.

And transport half way around the globe?

 

[Jdne5b]

And transport half way around the globe?

I get stuff shipped from china for $3 so transport cant be that bad.

 

[ShaunBrady]

Just trialling these pills in my .300 Norma also
Running them with Re33 and comparing to 230 H
What powder are you using?
I have a 1/10 Krieger 31” and 230 H naked running 3080fps so similar?
Did the advertised BC stack up in real world come ups?

I'm running Retumbo with a 215M primer in Lapua brass, 3.755" OAL at 0.020" jump.

2308 yards, 55 F, 27.55", 50% RH, 3090 fps. I'm at 39 degrees of latitude and the range has an azimuth of 280 degrees. The AB CDM gave 22.9 mils as the firing solution, 22.3 mils centered it up on the target. AB lists 0.420 for the averaged G7 value, the CDM solution trues to 0.414, real world gave 0.425, Hornady advertises them as 0.414. The vertical consistency was even more striking than the BC. 230 Hybrids are also the baseline I use and the only other bullet I've tested that runs with them for scoring is the 215 Hybrid. The ATips appear to be the next step forward.

The 1:8 gave a Sg of 1.96 at the day's conditions. The 1:9 Hornady recommends as the minimum twist would be 1.55. 1:10 gives 1.25. I've shot the 230 Hybrids deep into the transonic with a 1:10, but the ATips are significantly longer. The 230 Hybrids work well enough in that situation, but the 215's would probably have been a better choice. 1.780" long for the ATips vs. 1.681" with the 230 Hybrids.

 

[aussiepowderburner]

I'm running Retumbo with a 215M primer in Lapua brass, 3.755" OAL at 0.020" jump.

2308 yards, 55 F, 27.55", 50% RH, 3090 fps. I'm at 39 degrees of latitude and the range has an azimuth of 280 degrees. The AB CDM gave 22.9 mils as the firing solution, 22.3 mils centered it up on the target. AB lists 0.420 for the averaged G7 value, the CDM solution trues to 0.414, real world gave 0.425, Hornady advertises them as 0.414. The vertical consistency was even more striking than the BC. 230 Hybrids are also the baseline I use and the only other bullet I've tested that runs with them for scoring is the 215 Hybrid. The ATips appear to be the next step forward.

The 1:8 gave a Sg of 1.96 at the day's conditions. The 1:9 Hornady recommends as the minimum twist would be 1.55. 1:10 gives 1.25. I've shot the 230 Hybrids deep into the transonic with a 1:10, but the ATips are significantly longer. The 230 Hybrids work well enough in that situation, but the 215's would probably have been a better choice. 1.780" long for the ATips vs. 1.681" with the 230 Hybrids.

Shot the 230 ATip at 1800 yards recently and data off quoted bc was .5moa high! Looking good and honest claimed data!