Daniel Defense borecam

[fatelvis]

I installed this Daniel Defense 16” pencil barrel on my home defense rifle a few years ago and barely shot it. I think I put a total of 200 to 300 rounds through it. After cleaning it, I thought I would give it a look with the Teslong borescope. I was puzzled at the condition of the bore. It has never shown any signs of rust, but seems to be pitted or abraded throughout the bore. I have never used anything but patches and more cleaner to clean this rifle. Has anybody else seen anything similar to this? Was this from hammer forging or some type of manufacturing process? I am tempted to use Tubb's Final Finish kit, to smooth out this obviously rough bore. Thanks for your input!

 

[varget204]

Almost looks like it was Brushed Hard

 

[hpshooter]

Most important question-does it shoot to your level of acceptance for a home defense gun? Really that is all that matters.

Don't know how the "texture" came to be, may have been that way all along. Bore Cams will cause you to lose sleep at night, re-develop teenage acne and generate large levels of anxiety. I use them to check after cleaning and monitor throat wear the target and the purpose the particular firearm is used for is my final jury for decisions on weather to re-barrel or not.

 

[Dub]

/\/\/\/\ this

 

[fatelvis]

Surprisingly, it did not trap a lot of copper or carbon fouling. it cleaned up fairly quick.

 

[338 dude]

Surprisingly, it did not trap a lot of copper or carbon fouling. it cleaned up fairly quick.

Don’t use the final finish it is not that bad at the most I would use JB or Iosso and try to polish it and as said earlier if it shoots don’t lose any sleep

 

[Evan]

Looks clean to me. Nothing else to see or consider. Put the borescope down and slowly back away from the barrel!

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Thats not a higher end barrel so shoot it and dont look at it. Id bet its hammer forged and chrome plated (hence the easy cleanup) and does exactly what its designed to do

 

[fatelvis]

Thats not a higher end barrel so shoot it and dont look at it. Id bet its hammer forged and chrome plated (hence the easy cleanup) and does exactly what its designed to do

You are correct, it IS hammer forged, and it IS chrome lined. It does shoot Mil spec ball acceptably, but doesn't really shine with my match loads. But for almost $300, I imagined getting a more refined bore surface. I think you guys are correct about the borecam use, use it once and put it away! Lol

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I agree that if the barrel still shoots to your personal standards then dont worry about anything the bore scope shows you. I've seen factory barrels that look much worse than yours and they still shot 1/2 MOA

 

[Big Mc]

I installed this Daniel Defense 16” pencil barrel on my home defense rifle a few years ago and barely shot it. I think I put a total of 200 to 300 rounds through it. After cleaning it, I thought I would give it a look with the Teslong borescope. I was puzzled at the condition of the bore. It has never shown any signs of rust, but seems to be pitted or abraded throughout the bore. I have never used anything but patches and more cleaner to clean this rifle. Has anybody else seen anything similar to this? Was this from hammer forging or some type of manufacturing process? I am tempted to use Tubb's Final Finish kit, to smooth out this obviously rough bore. Thanks for your input!

Everyone who buys a Borescope ,will also buy a new barrel. Just my two cents . Tommy Mc Just shoot it.

 

[hogpatrol]

I'm waiting to see a barrel maker offer a special sale. Buy a borescope and get a discount on your next barrel sort of deal. Buyer gets the borescope and within days he's going to buy a new barrel.
I should have been a salesman.

 

[SPQR70AD]

Thats not a higher end barrel so shoot it and dont look at it. Id bet its hammer forged and chrome plated (hence the easy cleanup) and does exactly what its designed to do

I thought all DD hardware was high end. they are not cheap. of course there might be better barrels but DD rifles are real expensive cheapest one is 1800 then topping off at 3200. so would you have to spend around 4K to get a good barrel because the $3200 model has a cold hammer forged barrel like the OP has

 

[fatelvis]

I emailed DD customer service and asked them if my bore`s condition is normal. I'll let you all know what their response is.

 

[Dub]

I bought a borecam to look at my barrel after a shooting session before cleaning, and after cleaning before a new shooting session. Everything else I need to know comes form the targets.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I thought all DD hardware was high end. they are not cheap. of course there might be better barrels but DD rifles are real expensive cheapest one is 1800 then topping off at 3200. so would you have to spend around 4K to get a good barrel because the $3200 model has a cold hammer forged barrel like the OP has

Their barrels are less than $300. What does that mean on a $3200 gun? Lots of name perhaps?

 

[jonbearman]

Did you scope it when it was new? That barrel almost makes me think it was a factory test barrel that somehow got put on a new rifle. My buddy bought a new Bushmaster and it had a test fire bolt and carrier in it. They sent him a new one and told him to keep the other for a spare.I think they should replace the barrel for free.

 

[fatelvis]

Did you scope it when it was new? That barrel almost makes me think it was a factory test barrel that somehow got put on a new rifle. My buddy bought a new Bushmaster and it had a test fire bolt and carrier in it. They sent him a new one and told him to keep the other for a spare.I think they should replace the barrel for free.

No, I didn't have the borescope when I first installed the barrel. I've only shot 300 rounds max from this barrel.

 

[Richard Coody]

What are you expecting out of a 16" pencil barrel ar?

Daniel Defense, like all the other mass produced AR manufacturers, are just cashing in on America's infatuation with all things tactical. Want to be soldiers.

The AR really isn't that great a gun. Even the military knows it. But they are cheap to manufacture and the ammo is light so you can carry lots of it.

It is possible to build.an accurate AR but they get heavy very quickly. 5.56 would be my last.choice for a cartridge for a precision AR.

 

[justpassinthru]

What are you expecting out of a 16" pencil barrel ar?

Daniel Defense, like all the other mass produced AR manufacturers, are just cashing in on America's infatuation with all things tactical. Want to be soldiers.

The AR really isn't that great a gun. Even the military knows it. But they are cheap to manufacture and the ammo is light so you can carry lots of it.

It is possible to build.an accurate AR but they get heavy very quickly. 5.56 would be my last.choice for a cartridge for a precision AR.

The industry is also cashing in on the "building" craze. Many people have never done a lot of mechanical things with their hands but they can "build" an AR. I suspect some get great satisfaction from talking about "building" their rifles and IMHO, this drives the market.
I've assembled a few but will never claim to have "built" one because I lack the skills and machinery.
This is clearly seen in the 80% lower market too. I don't know what this stuff is selling for now but last time I checked, a finished lower could be had in the $40 to $50 range but for $80 plus, you could buy one in bare aluminum with a little machining left to be done.
It this pure profit or what?