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Zeiss conquest or swarovski z3

Getting ready to order a tikka forest in 243. Loved the one I bought in 222 and thought I would get a 243 as well for deer and varmint. My question is in picking a good quality clear scope for it. euro optics have both the Zeiss conquest 4.5-14 with their rapid z800 rectice and the swarovski z3 3-12 with the ballistic turrets marked down. The swarovski is still about $250 more than the zeiss. I can buy alot of brass and bullets for the $250 difference. I've always wanted a swarovski, but want to know if it's that much better than a zeiss. Which would you guys recommend for the tikka rifle. I would like something clear and nice quality without being to bulky. I had even considered the leica ER line, but I'm afraid they would be to bulky for that gun. Looking for something with a max power of at least 12 power.
Thanks for any help!
 
Same here, I would go with the Conquest and put the money towards bullets and brass. I have several of the Conquests.
Gary
 
How is the zeiss z800 recticle ? Is it too busy for hunting? I would like something with fine enough center cross hair I could do some target shooting with it as well.
 
If you have the opportunity to look through both, you'll find the resolution and contrast to be noticeably better in the Swarovski.
 
The own two of the HD5s with the z800, I have no complaints. I also owned one of the Z3 and had POI issues. Probably a rare condition with the Swarovski but it soured me on the Z3, the Z5 I own has been awesome.

Europtics also has the Leica ER 5 on sale, I bought one and liked it enough I bought more.
 
You need to look through them to decide. My eyes like Swarovski glass/coatings better over the Conquest and I would pay the extra $250.
 
Swarovski ! I used to use Zeiss but two erector failures in the Conquest I own and two failed in my friends Zeiss Conquest ( I had recommended the Conquest to them ) and super slow and no communication warranty service ended me ever buying Zeiss again. I switched to Swarovski and have had stellar performance and due to damage I inflicted to a scope I know the customer service is fantastic !
 

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