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You can't fix stupid.

I just returned from a local shooting range and would like to share my experience.

I was the first customer at a local range this fine Monday morning hoping to work up a load for my new supply of BIB bullets. The RO asked me what bench I would like so I picked #18, 100 and 200 from the same bench, nobody else was there and I thought to myself this is going to be a good day.
I set up my table and reloading gear as another shooter arrived, so I stopped to go downrange with him to set up targets. Then loaded up 5 rounds with a reduced charge and started shooting, 4 went into one hole I pulled 1 out of the group. I loaded the next 5 with the normal amount of 135 and proceeded to shoot a nice little group. Satisfied with the charge being ok I loaded up another batch. I was finishing up the loading when the following exchange took place:
RO: What are you doing? You can’t reload here.
Me: I read the rules, and there is no mention of “no reloading”
RO: It’s not safe having all that gun powder lying around.
Me: There is less than 8 ounces of powder in that dispenser.
RO: Doesn’t matter, its not safe.
Me: Do you allow shooting black powder weapons here?
RO: Yes, black powder is allowed.
Me: So a black powder shooter has to shoot once then leave the range to reload?
RO: No, that would be ridiculous.
Me: OK, now let me get this straight, it is ok to reload black powder here, which by the way is much more easily ignited than smokeless powder, but it is not ok to reload with smokeless powder.
RO: huh?
Me: I will pack up after I shoot what is loaded.
RO: Thanks for not making a big deal about it.
Me: Makes no sense to argue, you cant fix stupid.


Larry
 
Thought so. When you were describing the 18 bench, it just sounded familiar.
I think if you were to talk to the owner, he would probably give you the ok since you are there during off-peak hours. His name is Jim Day and he's a real nice guy. I have been going there for a while, shooting black powder and smokeless also.
Have never tried to reload at the bench, but have thought about it several times.
The other guy that works the counter is also a nice guy, but probably was just trying to protect his job. I don't think he reloads or has any concept of how it works.
Good luck to you. I hope you get the OK so maybe I can give it a try next time.

Tony
 
We have 2 ranges local here not counting the military base. 1 is awesome the other typical State run range with a bunch of yo yos running around with a Glock on their side & a bullhorn Of course here I am 10 yr Army vet Lifelong shooter being SAFE shooting groups here comes the local yoyo waitng for you to set up and squeeze then walks up behind you & yells ALL CLEAR on the Rifle Range!!! Not once but a couple times Now I calmy talk to the &*@#$ doesn't penetrate the void Luckily I have another range to go to 25 miles away.Sometimes I go land on a gravel bar and shoot
 
Stupidity is a God-given-right! Only WE can take advice with a grain of salt. Just because it's said or written, does not mean it's Gospel or even correct. A Given Bullet with a Given Charge can produce sub-MOA performance, but not in everyone's rifle. Handloading and Firing downrange are the only truths regarding true performance. Otherwise, I'd be wasting powder and primers and bullets weekly. Because it is boating and fishing season, I'm only shooting twice a week currently. Still, thirty rounds per session is better than hooking and fighting two Northern Pike per session, if just barely. cliffy
 
Makes me realize how lucky I am up here in Canada. I belong to 3 civilian gun clubs on north shore Lake Erie. As long as you handle your firearm safely and don`t leave a mess, you can pretty well do anything you want.

No reloading on Canadian Army bases though where I shoot F Class. The Army has this thing about loose ammo off the firing line which I suppose in the insanity of war is a practical thing.
 

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