wilson or redding 6mmbr dies

[tootalloutdoors]

Lots of questions. Tired of being "scattered",time to go forward..
Do I need Wilson dies to get premium reloads? How does that die work? Does the press compress it all the way, or start it and then you do something by hand. I'm wanting to know if I need an arbor press.
Can I neck size by adjusting a redding f/l die like I do with other dies for other calibers?
When I read the description of a die caliber,if it says 6mmbr rem.,I'm assuming that's for remington brass,do I need the ones that say 6mmbr norma??
I will not have time to ever compete with the gun accept against myself so I'm not interested in every tool and gadget under the sun,but I am pretty competitive with in myself.
Someone please say "stop screwing around, walking in circles"!!! "You need to get this, this and this, and go forward or shut up"!! The barrel will be a pac-nor .272 neck on a savage mod.112. Thanks to those willing to be blunt here..
tootalloutdoors

 

[Eddie Harren]

If you purchase Wilson dies, you'll need an arbor press.
Most of the die companies have not gotten around to re-marking the BR dies to the "Norma" configuration. No big deal. You should use Lapua "6 BR Norma" brass. Your choice of the .272" neck should allow you to use the Lapua brass without turning necks. Good Luck.

 

[Preacher]

A good arbor press is handy to have but is not needed if you can swing a leather mallet like a hammer. You can not full length that way but you sure can neck size and seat a bullet that way.
Yes you can neck size with a full length die, you just need to keep checking the fit when your adjusting the die down. I like to take the firing pin assembly out of the bolt when I'm doing this so I can really feel the exact point that it's perfect in the chamber. You can't feel that if your loading up the firing pin spring when you close the bolt.
Ideally you want the bolt to fall of it's own weight for about halfway down and then start to tighten up when you push it the rest of the way down.

 

[M700]

A couple of die-hard accuracy nuts,and Hunter BR competitors) talked me into trying Wilson dies and an arbor press a couple of years ago after decades of handloading on my good old RCBS Rockchucker.

I still use the Rockchucker for a lot of loading chores, but for accuracy loads for my .308 and my .25-06, the Wilson dies are all I use. It's a hoot, and that silly little press & die setup produces high quality ammo. No expert with it, but am turning out very good ammo. I think the Wilson seater die is particularly useful, and likely contributed the most to the improved accuracy I'm seeing, when compared to the standard RCBS dies I'd been using since for the past few hundred years.

Regards, Guy

 

[memilanuk]

I have some Wilson dies in a few calibers... as Guy mentioned, they load very good ammo... albeit somewhat slowly.

I think if you look thru the magazines like Precision Shooting... there's a guy who shot some record group,@ 1000yds) w/ a 6mm BR and ammo loaded w/ Redding Competition dies. I actually had to go back to using the Competition dies cuz cases sized in the Redding Body die would get stuck in the Wilson seater. Probably just need to take it over to Wilson in Cashmere,next town up the road) and have them ream it out a tad bigger, but I've been managing pretty well w/ the Redding dies in the meantime...

 

[Eddie Harren]

gunamonth, I know that the Norma BR and Rem BR have slightly different case dimensions. I also know that I use Redding 22 Rem BR dies to load my 22 BR Norma ammo and have no problems whatsoever. I also know that Wilson BR dies will do the same.

 

[jb1000br]

Harrell FL bushing sizer.
Wilson SS micrometer seater.
period.

 

[john1c]

Most of the die companies have not gotten around to re-marking the BR dies to the "Norma" configuration

Sorry, but I have to take exception to that. The 6mmBR Remington and 6mmBR Norma have slightly different case dimensions, the Norma version having a very slightly larger body. If I take new Lapua brass it fits fine in a chamber cut with a PT&G 6mmBR Norma reamer. If I run it through either a Redding or Forster FL 6mmBR Remington die the bolt won't close because the shoulder moves forward about 0.005" - the brass gets squeezed and has to go somewhere.

gunamonth,

I need to confirm, are you saying that the 6mmBR Remington forster fl sizing die is not reamed for 6mmBR Norma?

Thanks.

 

[JohnJ]

well im a newbe at this 6mmbr stuff and i bought the new lapua brass and redding dies,38317)and they work good together in getting the round into the lapua chamber thats a no neck turn now all i have to do is find a load that goes through one hole

just my 2cents

JohnJ