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Which data do I use when my specific bullet is not listed?

Pick out a comperable bullet, start your powder charge lower and work your charge up.
Inline with a basic rule of reloading: Always work up.
It's sad that new reloaders get so tangled into information provided, that they are lost where information stops. Maybe this happens when [reloading manuals] are used in lieu of [how to reload] books. I don't know.

I can see reloaders at forums concerned that manual information, COAL, load, primer, bullet, is not working for them. And It's clear right there that these reloaders are not yet thinking for themselves.
A dangerous stage.

Would be nice if there was a local reloading 101 course that they could sign up for.
I was fortunate to attend a reloading course in high school when I was 12. An extension of 'hunter's safety' course.
 
No need to be scared. Just normal finding for one, as each rifle is different and that is why you must start low and work up, SLOWLY, in your rifle. Yours may show pressure signs, when others don't. Just part of reloading and reloading safe and sound.
The one that scares me is "I have pressure at xx.x, below the max listed max of yy.y"
 
Expecting someone that can't even figure out a starting load to know what pressure signs to look for is a complete waste of time. 95% of shooters don't recognize high pressure until they're pounding the bolt open or the only thing that comes out of the chamber is the case head.
 
I was raised being given very discrete reloading steps by old timers. While they were getting a little free labor, I was learning a piece of the puzzle at a time.

Before long, I knew the whole process from end to end. The old timers seemed to understand how to teach in a low key way, but also how to make sure you actually knew what you were doing before you took on more complexity.

When the time came , they were careful to select the best examples of guns and ammo to teach pressure and safety. We used robust rigs and started with simple straightwall designs like 38 Special and walked the experience up to 357 Mag. Eventually you got the hang of different types of bullets and powders, and you did it without risk to yourself or the gun. The follow up with bottleneck rifle and shotgun ran the same. Small steps with tight oversight and good feedback.

There was time and distance between what I learned as a kid, and working in the weapon development world. By the time I found myself seeing pressure data, I thought back to those fall days with the old timers and how well they had taught us about pressure without the benefit of the pressure traces.

There is a tendency in the current environment to allow the shortages to get students disorganized. They seem to want to jump to production runs and yet they must start learning without being able to gather the right components due to availability.

It is up to all of us to slow them down and let them have a chance to learn about the effects of different components on pressure before they make dangerous assumptions or "take what they could get" and have an accident.

Consider starting folks out with a robust 38/357 and walk them through from powder puff loads to full house magnums using cast, plated, and jacketed. Let them have a chance to learn how things should look and the warning signs before turning them loose with too many unknowns. YMMV.
 
I was raised being given very discrete reloading steps by old timers. While they were getting a little free labor, I was learning a piece of the puzzle at a time.

Before long, I knew the whole process from end to end. The old timers seemed to understand how to teach in a low key way, but also how to make sure you actually knew what you were doing before you took on more complexity.

When the time came , they were careful to select the best examples of guns and ammo to teach pressure and safety. We used robust rigs and started with simple straightwall designs like 38 Special and walked the experience up to 357 Mag. Eventually you got the hang of different types of bullets and powders, and you did it without risk to yourself or the gun. The follow up with bottleneck rifle and shotgun ran the same. Small steps with tight oversight and good feedback.

There was time and distance between what I learned as a kid, and working in the weapon development world. By the time I found myself seeing pressure data, I thought back to those fall days with the old timers and how well they had taught us about pressure without the benefit of the pressure traces.

There is a tendency in the current environment to allow the shortages to get students disorganized. They seem to want to jump to production runs and yet they must start learning without being able to gather the right components due to availability.

It is up to all of us to slow them down and let them have a chance to learn about the effects of different components on pressure before they make dangerous assumptions or "take what they could get" and have an accident.

Consider starting folks out with a robust 38/357 and walk them through from powder puff loads to full house magnums using cast, plated, and jacketed. Let them have a chance to learn how things should look and the warning signs before turning them loose with too many unknowns. YMMV.
Hornady has it right on their podcast. Check your velocities and compare with reloading manuels where loads are tested under rigid standards. Be wary of high velocities that are out of line and loads you see on the internet. Pressure leads to velocity and there is no free lunch. Longer barrels and a powder with a progressive burn rate can lead to higher velocity at safe pressures if the right combination of components is used. Precision cnc rifles with their tolerances make pressure reading the case difficult. By the time these signs appear the pressure is usually high.
 
Back when I started reloading(late 70s), we had books. Since accurate rifles, varmint hunting and reloading was of great interest to me, I read every book that I could get my hands on. That information and some common sense went a long ways to making good ammo that was also safe. It’s just different in today’s world, people want instant answers when they open their computer or phone.
Rant over.
 
I get to work with and advise a lot of new F-Class shooters , and since most of the rifles are in a "Caliber Group" we have all pretty much developed knowledge of basic "Starting Loads" for the most commonly used powders and bullets . Not to say that there will always be that one rifle that violates all the rules , without rhyme or reason . I always try to instill in these new people that ; because we load "LONG" , there will always be room in the case for more powder . That's NOT an invitation to fill it up . We are going after a velocity "Node" , or Speed Bracket , that matches the ballistics of the bullet , and the Barrel length . Or easily stated to new shooters ? Stay within the guard rails . And they always seem to understand that exceeding the guard rails can damage their rifle . And of course ; work up slowly . A few rounds saved aren't worth doing damage to your Five thousand dollar rifle .
 
Expecting someone that can't even figure out a starting load to know what pressure signs to look for is a complete waste of time. 95% of shooters don't recognize high pressure until they're pounding the bolt open or the only thing that comes out of the chamber is the case head.
95% You just insulted 60K plus members here.
 
I am in Auburn Al, and while I feel fully confident to start reloading on my own, it still would be nice to have someone in the room to walk me through it a few times.
Just a guess on my part.... but if you asked around at a local match or rifle club I'm hoping one of the folks there would help you out.
 
I am in Auburn Al, and while I feel fully confident to start reloading on my own, it still would be nice to have someone in the room to walk me through it a few times.
I can tell you the first time I shot my reloads I was pretty nervous. I kept telling myself, "These are light loads and you did everything right. These are light loads and you did everything right." I'd wish you good luck, but I'm sure you'll do alright.
 

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