What piece of equipment next ?

[R.Morehouse]

You are standing at the edge of the rabbit hole..................Welcome

 

[Liven The Dream]

Start wit a Gold Member Ship .
I would say not being Funny Set of Bushing Dies , and a Good scale .
Sort your Brass by times fired and weight.
Tools to measure your loaded rounds.

Best of Luck

 

[Forum Boss]

My first comment is replace the barrel with a good custom. That will, ultimately, give you the most accuracy/consistency for the buck and save you tuning time.

As for reloading, be sure to sort base to ogive on your bullets. Make sure the comparator doesn't wobble.

Then better FL die (Whidden is great)
Then an arbor press with micrometer seating die
Then upgrade your front rest and rear bag


Comment: Stripped bolt method works. But I can get .0015 repeatable 3 of 4 times with a Hornady (formerly Stoney Point) LtoL gauge. Key is consistent gentle push -- do NOT jam the test bullet in to the lands with the push rod. Tap a couple times to ensure the bullet is centered then apply very gentle pressure. If done correctly you will see just tiny dots on the jacket where you have land contact. If you see stripes you are pushing too hard.

 

[Richard Coody]

try stripping your bolt and without a case in the chamber see if the bolt fall of it's own weight like in the video

here is a deluxe version of the stoney point
http://www.deadcentersports.com/index.html

 

[JimSC]

I am not extraordinarily anal attentive nor am I an engineer. Nevertheless I plan to give this accuracy thing a good go.

Have you looked into the different accuracy disciplines? Bench Rest, F Class, and Tactical are all concerned with accuracy but are three different ballgames in many ways.

 

[JFrank]

Why won't it work? I never owned a Savage. Is there something about the bolt that prevents this method from being used? Thanks.

IMO
It's a pain in the Ass and not like a custom action that's quick and simple.
Unless you have someone that can help you get it back together if you loose track or confidence I would just use the comparator method.
regards
J

 

[270WinDude]

With the Lee Precision dies I think they come with the collet neck sizer? I essentially have what you do plus all the comparators mentioned which have worked good for me even when compared to other methods, regarding cbto..... Before I start worrying about anything regarding my brass, I'm going to be purchasing a good front and rear rest, and good scope, then a concentricity gauge. Also as was recommended to me, get your trigger set to below factory, either buy a nice one like Jewell or tune yours better. Once I get to that point I'll worry more about brass. My biggest concern with brass att is capacity. Some handle max loads below base of the neck while another the powder is half way up the neck and weight sorting is useless in this matter, I'm surprised I don't heat others complaining about this, perhaps the difference between their lapua and my Winchester? I need to get flags too. I kinda started off with a good barrel I think, like mentioned the FV has a very good reputation for out the box accuracy but the barrels importance in accuracy can not be stated enough which is why so many said get a barrel, plus you can custom it to your bullet choices. My main point is, if you're not shooting great already, fancy equipment wont help so I'd work on what directly helps with shooting. I feel my reloading skills have surpassed my shooting skills, so just do the opposite.

 

[Homerange]

With the Lee Precision dies I think they come with the collet neck sizer?

Lee Precision is just the company name and none of their die sets bear the name precision.
Only their Ultimate set comes with FL and LCD.

https://leeprecision.com/reloading-dies/rifle-dies/

 

[JimSC]

The problem with replacing the barrel with a good aftermarket one first is the tupperware stock will not even let the stock barrel live up to it's potential let alone a good CBI or Shilen. When using a bipod or rest the stock flexes upon firing. I have the exact same stock sitting on a shelf, trust me when the gun was fired from a bipod or rest that stock bounces like a rubber ball. I have three Savage rifles in my safe two built on a Savage 10 action, one on a 12 Target action. All three shoot .5 MOA five shot groups or less at 100 which is not bench rest $5K custom gun accurate but are good enough for F class. I recommend replacing the stock first, and the barrel second

 

[BenPerfected]

As long as you are spending $, this is a very consistent SD measuring tool for multiple calibers.
Ben
https://www.forsterproducts.com/product/datum-dial/

 

[270WinDude]

Lee Precision is just the company name and none of their die sets bear the name precision.
Only their Ultimate set comes with FL and LCD.

https://leeprecision.com/reloading-dies/rifle-dies/

Ah I see. I ordered the "ultimate" die set. This whole time I thought I had ordered a "precision" set... Good to know. I have only had 1 issue with them and was corrected. They were very helpful, I couldn't sit the relatively small 110gr v-max deep enough so they had to send me a new part for my seating die which works great on them.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HQO3OEW/?tag=accuratescom-20

 

[LGKLAS]

I do not think I read any suggestion that at one point you get a concentricity tool. RCBS makes one, I think Sinclair, and I own and use Hornady's. I like Hornady's because it will give me my run-out and part of the tool is a means to correct the run-out. I'm relatively new to reloading myself. I agree with an earlier commenter who mentioned you (and I) are standing at the edge of a rabbit hole. LOL

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I do not think I read any suggestion that at one point you get a concentricity tool. RCBS makes one, I think Sinclair, and I own and use Hornady's. I like Hornady's because it will give me my run-out and part of the tool is a means to correct the run-out. I'm relatively new to reloading myself. I agree with an earlier commenter who mentioned you (and I) are standing at the edge of a rabbit hole. LOL

Its because with good dies it will just gather dust on the shelf

 

[LGKLAS]

Its because with good dies it will just gather dust on the shelf

Probably true. Given from what I read a run-out of 0.002 is within 'tolerances'. I've got Forster dies backordered, and use RCBS dies in the meantime and a Forster CoAx press. Even with those dies, I've yet to measure .002 run-out, much less more. But, I can virtually zero out what run out I have. Can I tell if that makes a bit of difference in my group sizes or accuracy? No. Too many other variables involved. But then, I think a person could say that about other things we reloaders do. Yes?

 

[Richard Coody]

Probably true. Given from what I read a run-out of 0.002 is within 'tolerances'. I've got Forster dies backordered, and use RCBS dies in the meantime and a Forster CoAx press. Even with those dies, I've yet to measure .002 run-out, much less more. But, I can virtually zero out what run out I have. Can I tell if that makes a bit of difference in my group sizes or accuracy? No. Too many other variables involved. But then, I think a person could say that about other things we reloaders do. Yes?

and i wonder what effect straightening a bullet has on neck tension.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

and i wonder what effect straightening a bullet has on neck tension.

Probably more than just letting it ride as is