what causes flyers

[dannyr3_8]

first 3 bullets are touching then next 2 are all over the place what is going on here is the barrel warming causing this

 

[tclaunch]

Seating depth to far in the lands, move the bullet back till the fliers are gone, about .002" at a time.

 

[dkhunt14]

More info needed. Is it a skinny barrel. Does it do it after cleaning? Could be bedding, Powder, primers, Bullet seating, Bad bullets, tension or a few other things. Matt

 

[BoydAllen]

+1 (Please give a detailed description of the rifle, including modifications, as well as its cleaning status when this happens.)

 

[Erik Cortina]

More info needed. Is it a skinny barrel. Does it do it after cleaning? Could be bedding, Powder, primers, Bullet seating, Bad bullets, tension or a few other things. Matt

Could also be the shooter.

 

[dannyr3_8]

chances are eric is right lol but rem 700 sps 223 handloads and it does this with all loads so far just started adjusting seating depth though and i have been going over this in depth in another thread so maybe that is it appreciate the help and like i said i am in the process of changing depths so if i still have problem i will revisit the question

 

[Ringostar]

Are you using the factory sps stock? They have a contact point at the front, supporting off of the barrel.

 

[BoydAllen]

The problem with plastic stocks is that they do not lend themselves to the sort of improvements that wood or fiberglass stocks do, such as floating the barrel and bedding (preferably pillar) the action, (but I understand that some improvements are possible). Reading on the internet, I find the common theme of shooters jumping straight to load development of an unmodified factory rifle. I think that unless you are lucky, that this can be a waste of time, barrel steel, components, and fuel. In the past, when pretty much all factory stocks were wood, I would never even think of beginning serious load development without first attending to bedding, and the trigger. Another thing that I run into is that shooters make fundamental errors in how they rest, and hold their rifles, pull their triggers, fail to follow through. Many have the idea that in order to obtain the best accuracy, when shooting from a rest, that they should make the lightest contact possible with the rifle. Almost no one, except benchrest shooters use any sort of wind indicators (flags) between the bench and the target. Many have no real idea as to how to properly adjust a scope. The point of all of this is that consistent accuracy is a weakest link thing, and no part of what is required can be ignored. By way of encouragement, I will point out that I started centerfire shooting with a 788 Remington, the cheapest 4X scope that could be had, loading with a Lee loader, and having the time of my life. I hope that you have as much fun as I did.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Nice post Boyd, if one will take info like yours and understand that it is meant to help and not criticize they will evolve in shooting. I know that I have since the first day I've been a member of this forum. I don't believe I can add anything to this. Thanks to all the members here that share their wealth of information.

Let us know how you make out and what you did to fix the flier issue.

The problem with plastic stocks is that they do not lend themselves to the sort of improvements that wood or fiberglass stocks do, such as floating the barrel and bedding (preferably pillar) the action, (but I understand that some improvements are possible). Reading on the internet, I find the common theme of shooters jumping straight to load development of an unmodified factory rifle. I think that unless you are lucky, that this can be a waste of time, barrel steel, components, and fuel. In the past, when pretty much all factory stocks were wood, I would never even think of beginning serious load development without first attending to bedding, and the trigger. Another thing that I run into is that shooters make fundamental errors in how they rest, and hold their rifles, pull their triggers, fail to follow through. Many have the idea that in order to obtain the best accuracy, when shooting from a rest, that they should make the lightest contact possible with the rifle. Almost no one, except benchrest shooters use any sort of wind indicators (flags) between the bench and the target. Many have no real idea as to how to properly adjust a scope. The point of all of this is that consistent accuracy is a weakest link thing, and no part of what is required can be ignored. By way of encouragement, I will point out that I started centerfire shooting with a 788 Remington, the cheapest 4X scope that could be had, loading with a Lee loader, and having the time of my life. I hope that you have as much fun as I did.

 

[dannyr3_8]

i have to be honest first thing i did was start adjusting loads i did install a calvin elite trigger and recently bought a b&l stock all of these things have been dicussed elsewhere the first stock i got did not fit me well and shooting suffered i have a new one that has not been to the range yet fingers crossed