Viht N110 with 240 gr bullets

[Scrumbag]

Hi folks,

Anyone used 240gr Nosler JSP or Swift A-Frame out of a 44 mag lever action rifle with Viht N110 (Or even Hogdon H110?)

Looking for either QL indications or some real world data.

Help much appreciated.

Best wishes,

Scrummy

 

[rogn]

I assume you're talking about a 44caliber rifle. I have used both of the 110s in the 45Colt with 250 and 300gr JHP. The H110 loaded to a tad under the max loads listed by Hodgdon with both the 250 and 300 gr bullets produces excellent velocity out of a 20" carbine. For instance the 300gr XTP can run at 1700fps. The accuracy in 2 20" guns holds well at 1.5 to 2 " for 3 shot groups at a 100 yds.
N100 shoots well at various loadings, shoots clean and produces velocities a bit under those produced by the H110.
Hodgdon lists H110loads for both 44 and 45 cal.
N110 loads are fairly conservative, but published loads can be found with some research. Safe loads are usually in excess of published values. There are inconsistencies even from the same source, VV. The listings can vary year to year.
I have found the H110 loads in a revolver in cold weather need mag primers and good heavy crimps. Otherwise misfires can result. N110 has much better manners.

 

[Scrumbag]

I assume you're talking about a 44caliber rifle. I have used both of the 110s in the 45Colt with 250 and 300gr JHP. The H110 loaded to a tad under the max loads listed by Hodgdon with both the 250 and 300 gr bullets produces excellent velocity out of a 20" carbine. For instance the 300gr XTP can run at 1700fps. The accuracy in 2 20" guns holds well at 1.5 to 2 " for 3 shot groups at a 100 yds.
N100 shoots well at various loadings, shoots clean and produces velocities a bit under those produced by the H110.
Hodgdon lists H110loads for both 44 and 45 cal.
N110 loads are fairly conservative, but published loads can be found with some research. Safe loads are usually in excess of published values. There are inconsistencies even from the same source, VV. The listings can vary year to year.
I have found the H110 loads in a revolver in cold weather need mag primers and good heavy crimps. Otherwise misfires can result. N110 has much better manners.

Hi Rogn,

Thanks very much for that. Yes, you are right, 20" barrel, 44 mag 1892 clone (Have edited the above post)

Understand that H110 can be a little badly mannered with anything bar high end loads. I do wonder about cold weather performance with rifles. If you sit in your highseat / treestand from before dawn when it is below freezing, perhaps the rifle on a metal bar - sounds like a recipe for a cold rifle to me.

VV data currently lists max as 22.1gr with N110 and a 240gr JTC-Sil and has similar length so would presumably work well.

I have H110 here which I will start with and if I find supply issues difficult change to N110.

Have no fear though, I will put on a good stout crimp. (Understood that was strongly recommended with H110)

Now I just need to get hold of a Chrono and the ranges to re-open here (roll on 30th March!)

Scrummy

 

[rogn]

Hi Rogn,

Thanks very much for that. Yes, you are right, 20" barrel, 44 mag 1892 clone (Have edited the above post)

Understand that H110 can be a little badly mannered with anything bar high end loads. I do wonder about cold weather performance with rifles. If you sit in your highseat / treestand from before dawn when it is below freezing, perhaps the rifle on a metal bar - sounds like a recipe for a cold rifle to me.

VV data currently lists max as 22.1gr with N110 and a 240gr JTC-Sil and has similar length so would presumably work well.

I have H110 here which I will start with and if I find supply issues difficult change to N110.

Have no fear though, I will put on a good stout crimp. (Understood that was strongly recommended with H110)

Now I just need to get hold of a Chrono and the ranges to re-open here (roll on 30th March!)

Scrummy

In shooting the 45C with H110 in the rifle I haven't really seen any problems.. Ive never loaded more that 5 or 6 rounds but the stout crimp held for that number. The only primers Ive seen problems with have been Wolf or Tula and that because they are fairly mild. Not detectable in the rifle but in the Redhawk I stuck two bullets, so all handgun loads are with magnum primers.
I dint think with magnum primers , a good crimp and a full power load you would see any problems. I haven't here into the 20*F range.
If you want to confirm that load a few loads as described and cold soak the ammo and gun while the weather is still cold and test fire. Alternative is to freeze rifle and ammo, rush outside( I can do that out my kitchen) and test fire. Work fast because things tend to get a layer of frost or condensation real quick.

 

[JayHHI6818]

Not for a rifle but I shoot pistol silhouette with a Freedom Arms 44 Mag revolver.
Load is 18.5 grs N110
Sierra 250 gr FJP
Federal 150 Match primer
Velocity is 1365 FPS
Mild load that is very accurate. A match is 55 rounds so don’t need to beat myself up with recoil. I load on Dillon 550 and use a Redding profile crimp die to crimp case.

 

[Scrumbag]

Not for a rifle but I shoot pistol silhouette with a Freedom Arms 44 Mag revolver.
Load is 18.5 grs N110
Sierra 250 gr FJP
Federal 150 Match primer
Velocity is 1365 FPS
Mild load that is very accurate. A match is 55 rounds so don’t need to beat myself up with recoil. I load on Dillon 550 and use a Redding profile crimp die to crimp case.

Good to know, thank you!

 

[Scrumbag]

In shooting the 45C with H110 in the rifle I haven't really seen any problems.. Ive never loaded more that 5 or 6 rounds but the stout crimp held for that number. The only primers Ive seen problems with have been Wolf or Tula and that because they are fairly mild. Not detectable in the rifle but in the Redhawk I stuck two bullets, so all handgun loads are with magnum primers.
I dint think with magnum primers , a good crimp and a full power load you would see any problems. I haven't here into the 20*F range.
If you want to confirm that load a few loads as described and cold soak the ammo and gun while the weather is still cold and test fire. Alternative is to freeze rifle and ammo, rush outside( I can do that out my kitchen) and test fire. Work fast because things tend to get a layer of frost or condensation real quick.

Thanks very much