value of x's in tracking progress

[kzin]

I log all my practice scores on computer to track progress and 'cause I'm a nerd.

I've reached the point where my scores are high enough that I need to pay attention to x count.

100 1x is greater than 99 9x in a match by definition but should it really be considered better when evaluating quality of shooting?

Would adding x's to score be good? Or is that valuing x's too highly?

 

[BP1]

I don’t think so..I know last month in Houston in F/tr 1st-3rd place was decided by x count.All 3 great shooters shot the same score and ended up going to the x count which was also close as heck 18,17,&16xs.Talk about crazy close.

 

[grouzer3]

Where was the 100 with 1x on the target? Was the 1 a flyer into the x ring? Honestly in a competition the 100 with 1 wins but the 9 with 9 hit the center more

 

[JayBeeYou]

When looking at the difference between 100/1x and 99/9x I would look at conditions shot in as context. A 100/1x on a calm day would concern me that I may have a 1 minute gun or load. A 99/9x I would want to know where my miss was( I know I remember where I dropped my one point on a 99).

If my 99/9x was a straight waterline miss than it's my fault. 100 with 1/x is almost hard to do with a gun and load that are sub 1/2 minute.

I would look hard at my impact waterline on a 100/1x.

My opinion as applies to FTR.

 

[lawman29]

Evaluate your score and X count relative to the shooters on the same relay for a given match. Your own scores/x count fluctuate according to conditions of a particular match.

 

[500Stroker]

I log all my practice scores on computer to track progress and 'cause I'm a nerd.

I've reached the point where my scores are high enough that I need to pay attention to x count.

100 1x is greater than 99 9x in a match by definition but should it really be considered better when evaluating quality of shooting?

Would adding x's to score be good? Or is that valuing x's too highly?

Your X count needs to be at the very least 60% of your shots for record to be competitive in F-Open.
No X's, no wins

 

[retired]

2 CENTS WORTH.
if you are still shooting 9's, do not worry about x's.
a lot depends on the conditions of THAT DAY.
log that

 

[Medic505]

2 CENTS WORTH

As usual you are wrong. LOG THAT.

As the old saying goes, aim small, shoot small. Always shoot for X's. I've won by X count and I've lost by X count. It's true an X is still 10 points, but in the long run they are worth much more.

 

[sdean]

I say take advice from internet names with a grain of salt.

 

[savageshooter86]

When I can I plot shots or screen shot targets I do. Evaluate later on vertical and wind calls. If I missed wind call but held good vertical that’s me

 

[retired]

gee i was just following what michelle gallagher wrote in her book.
i think she has some history in shooting but i could be wrong.

As usual you are wrong. LOG THAT.

As the old saying goes, aim small, shoot small. Always shoot for X's. I've won by X count and I've lost by X count. It's true an X is still 10 points, but in the long run they are worth much more.

 

[Medic505]

gee

So would that be the Michelle Gallagher that penned "Paranormal Side Effects"?

I've known Michelle Gallagher the shooter for some time, I don't think she's ever written a book. Her Mother, Nancy Tompkins did write "Prone and Long Range Rifle Shooting", a very fine book of everything a novice should read. Maybe you should pick up a copy.

 

[Medic505]

but i could be wrong

Yes you are. Once again.

 

[retired]

lol yes you are correct, i read nancy's book and was talking to michelle at ben avery earlier this year.
the bottom line , she said do not chase x's if they cost you 9's. 10's win. 9's do not.
that was what i was saying..if he is still shooting 9's do not worry about x's.

Yes you are. Once again.

 

[JohnKielly]

Then again a lousy X count can be a reflection of your load & tune.

 

[Ned Ludd]

As John stated, high scores with low X-counts are sometimes indicative of a load going out of tune. You can keep the majority inside the 10-ring, but the Xs just don't seem to be there. This is particularly true under benign wind conditions. When I see that happen, it's usually an indication I need to revisit charge weight/velocity and/or re-tune seating depth.

A high score with low X-count can also sometimes be observed under very challenging wind conditions, but more often than not the shooter will also drop more points than normal unless their wind reading skill are extremely good.

 

[HomeSlice]

I think that a steadily increasing X count during your practice sessions is an indicator that your practice is working. I'd be worried if it wasn't happening.

 

[1shot]

As a sling shooter, X count is an indicator of how well I'm shooting that day with a proven load. We have more real estate for error than an F class shooter, so I use X count as a gage to my performance. It's true that a 200-0x beats 199-19x, but a 199-15x with a 9 at 3 o'clock tells me I am shooting well, just missed a wind call.
I hope this helps,

Lloyd

 

[Terry O]

As the old saying goes, aim small, shoot small. Always shoot for X's. I've won by X count and I've lost by X count. It's true an X is still 10 points, but in the long run they are worth much more.

I have dropped points with the shoot for X's philosophy. Holding off for a 10 provides more room for error.

 

[CharlieNC]

The question is about maximizing the information from practice, not match strategy. But of course you are practicing to improve matches so you need to incorporate both aspects into your approach. I continue to find new ways to diminish score at a match, so resolving identified issues becomes the issue of practice. It is easy to record numerous target parameters which may lead understanding areas for improvement, but learning the true factors to address is the real challenge.