• This Forum is for adults 18 years of age or over. By continuing to use this Forum you are confirming that you are 18 or older. No content shall be viewed by any person under 18 in California.

Using triggers that roll?

Hey everyone. I shoot mostly highpower and precision tactical matches, but am relatively new to riflery in general. Been shooting for about two years, and I got to thinking a lot recently about my trigger. I decided to post here since I know a lot of development happens on the benchrest line, and wanted to get the opinions and experiences of those who seek absolute control over their precision shots.

I was dead set on getting a two stage trigger for my match AR. It seemed to make sense and provide the most control. The thing is, after a lot of matches and dryfiring at home, I can't shake the feeling that an entirely different style of break might be better...

After tweaking the various adjustments on my trigger, I'd occasionally turn it into just a single stage- but not a "glass rod" single stage, more like that of a double action revolver - a long, steady pull back with a release that had no real "break" whatsoever- almost like a continual motion. This seemed to fly in the face of everything I'd read about the properties of ideal precision triggers, and yet, it seemed to allow me to more effortlessly stay on the black.

After thinking about it for a bit, it seemed analogous to opening two different types of doors - a glass rod trigger was like leaning on a locked door harder and harder until suddenly it gave. But this rolling trigger was much more like pushing a revolving door- one smooth motion.

I posted on some other forums and was told something briefly about roll-off triggers, and others mostly just thought I was crazy. I've been keen to apply the fundamentals- NPA, smooth steady pulling of the trigger, etc. -and still it seems to be more effortless with a rolling set up. It takes the muscle resistance out of the equation and makes it one continuous motion.

Anyway, I wanted to know if this is a common preference in the benchrest world, or if here too it's all about the clean break.

Oh and just to clarify, I'm not talking about a jittery or creepy trigger- this is, again, like operating a smooth lever or a rotating glass door.

Thoughts?
 
I can't really speak for benchrest, but my guess is that roll triggers aren't used in that genre very much. I'm basing that soley on the Jewell, and Kelby triggers which seem to be the most popular triggers for benchrest. I don't think you see many two stage or roll triggers in a benchrest match.

Bullseye pistol shooting however is where the roll trigger really shines. A Bullseye pistol match is typically 270 shots, and it's all offhand. Just as you described, I find that it helps you maintain a consistent smooth trigger pull that doesn't disturb your sight picture. In my XTC highpower rifles, I use two stage triggers, and I find that I do prefer a definitive stop where the second stage begins. In that game though, only 1/4 of the match is shot offhand.

-- Scott
 
You would have a good argument for the "rolling trigger" as you call it if your comparison were closer to actual.

There is no leaning on a Jewel trigger set at 1.5oz pull.
So comparing it to leaning on a locked door is swaying your opinion, IMO.

If youve never shot a benchrest rifle with a nice trigger set at an 1.5 oz you should ask someone if they would let you try it.
I think youd see things a little differently. At least for benchrest.
 
swehrman said:
Bullseye pistol shooting however is where the roll trigger really shines. A Bullseye pistol match is typically 270 shots, and it's all offhand. Just as you described, I find that it helps you maintain a consistent smooth trigger pull that doesn't disturb your sight picture. In my XTC highpower rifles, I use two stage triggers, and I find that I do prefer a definitive stop where the second stage begins. In that game though, only 1/4 of the match is shot offhand.

-- Scott

It's funny you should mention that. I actually noticed that it was in offhand that I saw the biggest difference. In sitting and prone, it seemed like the support you automatically get from the nonshooting hand made it sort of a wash between the two methods, whereas with offhand it really made it more stable.

Given then what they do in pistol, maybe it really is the superior method for offhand shooting...

I guess I should carry a set of allen wrenches with me on the line and adjust my trigger between stages ;)
 
RMiller said:
You would have a good argument for the "rolling trigger" as you call it if your comparison were closer to actual.

There is no leaning on a Jewel trigger set at 1.5oz pull.
So comparing it to leaning on a locked door is swaying your opinion, IMO.

If youve never shot a benchrest rifle with a nice trigger set at an 1.5 oz you should ask someone if they would let you try it.
I think youd see things a little differently. At least for benchrest.

Yeah I could definitely see this. I guess I'm referring more to the 3-5 lb. range you see on the highpower line. I think a 1.5 oz trigger there would be downright dangerous :)
 

Upgrades & Donations

This Forum's expenses are primarily paid by member contributions. You can upgrade your Forum membership in seconds. Gold and Silver members get unlimited FREE classifieds for one year. Gold members can upload custom avatars.


Click Upgrade Membership Button ABOVE to get Gold or Silver Status.

You can also donate any amount, large or small, with the button below. Include your Forum Name in the PayPal Notes field.


To DONATE by CHECK, or make a recurring donation, CLICK HERE to learn how.

Forum statistics

Threads
166,248
Messages
2,215,385
Members
79,508
Latest member
Jsm4425
Back
Top