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Trying something new with something old.

I've spent some time evaluating low cost electronic scales suitable for accurate weighing while powder trickling, and ended up with something interesting instead.

I have a RCBS Chargemaster 1500 scale. It works well enough. Drift is not bad, but it does drift, sometimes a significant part of one grain.

I am not prepared to spend what I consider a huge amount of money on a FX120i or equivalent, so I bought and tried a few different scales in the same price range as the one I have, and none of them are better.

They all drift.

I have an old 10-10, which weighs accurately, but does not have a fine enough resolution to easily indicate a single granule of powder being added to the pan.

I then recalled that years ago, when I first began reloading, my first scale was a Lee Precision. I also recalled that it was extremely sensitive, but a perpetual motion machine, making powder weighing an exercise towards sainthood. I also remember giving it away and buying something orange, can't remember exactly what it was.

I now bought another Lee, and tried to figure out why it could never stop moving. The reason is that brass or aluminium when moving through a magnetic field, experience a force to retard the motion. The magnets in the Lee scale are not strong enough to distract a compass needle, so I removed them and replaced them with rectangular neodymium magnets. Perpetual motion problem solved.

I have an old laptop - look up HP 6730b to see how old - that's too slow for anything useful, and an almost equally old USB HD webcam. I used them to give me a big picture of the scale reading. I used two strips aluminium tape superimposed on the scale to give a finer demarcation line.

I've checked what the Chargemaster 1500 says against the 10-10, and they concur.

So I'm trying a new thing :

1. use the 10-10 to weigh the initial charge, being accurate to 0.1 grain
2. zero the Lee using that charge
3. drop powder from the powder measure slightly below what's required
4. trickle up on the Lee while viewing on the laptop screen

So far so good. The video is showing 40.2 grains of N555. The resolution of the scale is such that it shows a change with just one granule of N555.

I've now got consistent charge weights to the granule, and I don't have to constantly re-check if the scale has drifted.

Use this link to get the video clip -

Lee Safety Scale Revisited
 
Something is amiss here with the ChargeMaster. You should not see zero drift as the scale has an auto zero which will see any slight deviation and rezero. If your measurements are varying by a grain something is effecting the calibration. This usually turns out to be powder in the weighing mechanism.
 
Make sure you don't have your cellphone on you in proximity of digital scales. Mine goes crazy whenever the phone pings (transmits) the tower. Also, I leave my scale on perpetually so there's no warm up needed if I suddenly decide to do some reloading. Just my experience.

Hoot
 
Just curious, it is really necessary to have single granular accuracy with extruded powder loads.
IMO, not a bad thing to have, and this is a simple, cost-effective way to achieve that.
Something is amiss here with the ChargeMaster. You should not see zero drift as the scale has an auto zero which will see any slight deviation and rezero. If your measurements are varying by a grain something is effecting the calibration. This usually turns out to be powder in the weighing mechanism.
I've been looking at this carefully while reloading with this 1500 scale for the past year or so. The scale does drift. I calibrate, then zero with the pan. When I remove the pan, I get a minus reading. Over time, as I fill more cases, that minus reading gets a little more or less minus on it. Never a full grain, usually just .2, occasionally up to .4, enough to change the velocity past the normally expected ES.

I could zero the scale after every weighing, but that removes my confidence that every charge is the same weight.

The climate here has wide temperature swings that can happen in an hour. Yesterday started in the early 20's, went to nearly 30, then clouds came in and it rained, the wind picked up, and the temperature went below 20. The room is not climate controlled. The scale drifts just with that temperature change.
 

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