Trigger

[johara1]

will a 5018 trigger fit a model 54?...... Jim

 

[a1712]

Yes. Brian.

 

[SBS]

Yes and No. The 5018 is made for the later 54 actions -- the 1800 and 1900 series. Won't match up in an older receiver with an original bolt. IF you changed to an 1800 or 1900 series bolt, then it would work in your receiver with just a little work relieving the back pin in the trigger, but the bolt plus a 5018 trigger would set you back big bucks. The older 54 had 3 triggers available: the single stage (which doesn't go very low without some serious alteration); a 2 stage "hair" trigger that is adjustable from 2 1/2-5 oz. and the International set, which can be set as low as 1/6 oz. or when not set, can be used as a 2 stage hair as above. The International set is a really nice trigger for the older models; takes a bit of getting used to and might lose a few points till you develop a routine. While the set model increases lock time, it is of no importance in BR, as Tim s states in an earlier post. This triggers tends to be pricey also, recently saw one sell quickly somewhere around $550. Have also seen them fetch around $900 in the past, but this apparently caused everybody to dig them out to sell and prices have moderated somewhat.

 

[johara1]

thanks a bunch....... I see it would be better off buying a 1907 or a 1913 barreled action that already has the trigger ...... Jim

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

will a 5018 trigger fit a model 54?...... Jim

As it comes from Anschutz no, however if you can find the sear catch lever from a 5071 or 5075 you can switch it out and the lever catch will be in the right position for the older 1400-1600 series bolts.
I was told the catch levers are hard to find and are $100+ you can on occasion find 5075 for around $150-175. but you still need the 5018 trigger.
if you find a 5071-1 the last version of that trigger it is from what I can tell converted 5018's with the proper catch lever.
if you are looking for a light benchrest trigger look for a 5075D and swap out the springs with the 5018 you will have a single stage trigger that can go as low as 1.5oz. as measure with weight on the trigger blade and not with a spring pull gage or digital readout.

Lee

 

[johara1]

Thank you sir, you are a wealth of knowledge....... Jim

 

[Tim s]

Yes and No. The 5018 is made for the later 54 actions -- the 1800 and 1900 series. Won't match up in an older receiver with an original bolt. IF you changed to an 1800 or 1900 series bolt, then it would work in your receiver with just a little work relieving the back pin in the trigger, but the bolt plus a 5018 trigger would set you back big bucks. The older 54 had 3 triggers available: the single stage (which doesn't go very low without some serious alteration); a 2 stage "hair" trigger that is adjustable from 2 1/2-8 oz. and the International set, which can be set as low as 1/6 oz. or when not set, can be used as a 2 stage hair as above. The International set is a really nice trigger for the older models; takes a bit of getting used to and might lose a few points till you develop a routine. While the set model increases lock time, it is of no importance in BR, as Tim s states in an earlier post. This triggers tends to be pricey also, recently saw one sell quickly somewhere around $550. Have also seen them fetch around $900 in the past, but this apparently caused everybody to dig them out to sell and prices have moderated somewhat.

I meant to inquire about this earlier but forgot for a bit.
Maybe you could elaborate on one point you made that I have never really seen a lot of info on.
I have had more than one, older 54 based BR rifles, both with 1 1/2-2 oz triggers not done by myself.
It has always been my understanding that most of that only require a spring change plus a readjustment on the cams, etc.
Is it considerably more complex ? Thanks.

 

[SBS]

I meant to inquire about this earlier but forgot for a bit.
Maybe you could elaborate on one point you made that I have never really seen a lot of info on.
I have had more than one, older 54 based BR rifles, both with 1 1/2-2 oz triggers not done by myself.
It has always been my understanding that most of that only require a spring change plus a readjustment on the cams, etc.
Is it considerably more complex ? Thanks.

Not quite sure which trigger you had on these rifles. Some years ago, I looked at the difference between the single stage trigger and the 2 stage. The primary difference in function was part no. 107, adjustment lever, where it contacted p/n 101, Catch. I had a shop with wire EDM make some new adj. levers with the contact point changed and (using light springs also), was able to get the pull down in the 2 oz. range with the single stage trigger. However it was a little longer pull than I was used to in a single stage trigger, so I located an International set and used it for BR. There are no cam adjustments that I remember on any of these older triggers, they are pretty simple. I recall that there is someone on this site or rimfirecentral that reworks old Anschutz triggers to a light pull for BR shooting and I'm sure he would know more about such a conversion. I solved my problem with the set trigger, which I could also use as a regular 2 stage if wanted. Just a note, the 2 stage is adjustable from the factory from 2 1/2 - 5 oz.(not 8). I corrected my above post.

 

[Tim s]

Thanks,
The one I still have is , I believe, the 5071. As I recall, that allowed the 1st stage to get dialed right out and the the spring replaced to bring it right down to 2oz range although it feels lighter and breaks crisply

 

[SBS]

Thanks,
The one I still have is , I believe, the 5071. As I recall, that allowed the 1st stage to get dialed right out and the the spring replaced to bring it right down to 2oz range although it feels lighter and breaks crisply

I am certainly no expert on this, but I understand the 5071 is simply an adaptation of the 5018 trigger for the 1400 series rifles and therefore not available when these rifles were made. If this is so, there is cam adjustment. I'm sure Lee would know, as he is well versed on these triggers, per his above post. Maybe he will chime in.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Thanks,
The one I still have is , I believe, the 5071. As I recall, that allowed the 1st stage to get dialed right out and the the spring replaced to bring it right down to 2oz range although it feels lighter and breaks crisply

Tim,

The 5071 should adjust to the sub-2oz. the 5071-1 which has the trigger cam just like the 5018 can go lower 1-1/2 oz.
what I was referring to was taking a 5075-74 trigger (single stage) and installing the springs from a 5018
I got the idea as I know you can get a heavy spring kit to make the 5018 have as high as 2.1/2lbs. so I just looked up the P/N for the lighter springs. the trigger I have now on my 1411 can go below 1.5oz but 1.5 is more reliable. not quite a Jewel but no creep. and as I mentioned trigger release was measure by placing a 1.5 oz. weight on the trigger blade and adjust the sear till it released.

Lee

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

I am certainly no expert on this, but I understand the 5071 is simply an adaptation of the 5018 trigger for the 1400 series rifles and therefore not available when these rifles were made. If this is so, there is cam adjustment. I'm sure Lee would know, as he is well versed on these triggers, per his above post. Maybe he will chime in.

SBS,

The original 5071 were on the 1600 series rifles the so call X-actions these did not have the trigger cam. later Anschutz sold replacements 5071-1 triggers these were from what I can tell 5018 triggers with the 5071 sear catch levers installed so they would work with the older 1400 & 1600 actions.
so in all respects they are really 5018's.
I been fortunate to have used and owned all of the Match triggers with exception of the 5018 I have only worked on them.
by fall the 5039 is the ultimate BR trigger for these rifles, the only trigger I current shoot with that comes close to it is the Flavio Fare on my Falcon which is setup for sub-3/4oz release.

Lee

 

[SBS]

Thanks, Lee. I have a friend who shoots a 1600 and I knew it didn't have cam adjustments, but did not realize it was the early 5071.

 

[Tim s]

Tim,

The 5071 should adjust to the sub-2oz. the 5071-1 which has the trigger cam just like the 5018 can go lower 1-1/2 oz.
what I was referring to was taking a 5075-74 trigger (single stage) and installing the springs from a 5018
I got the idea as I know you can get a heavy spring kit to make the 5018 have as high as 2.1/2lbs. so I just looked up the P/N for the lighter springs. the trigger I have now on my 1411 can go below 1.5oz but 1.5 is more reliable. not quite a Jewel but no creep. and as I mentioned trigger release was measure by placing a 1.5 oz. weight on the trigger blade and adjust the sear till it released.

Lee

That's it. It is on one of my IR 50 sporters, been a great trigger....issue free.
Thanks again guys for the refreasher.