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trigger lube for cold weather

What should I use for a lube and rust preventative on a hawken muzzleloader trigger and also a bolt gun trigger in cold weather . In December it can get down to zero. Thanks cliffe
 
+2 Lighter fluid. Soak it, shake it as dry as possible (blow some air through it if you have a compressor with a condensation filter), let it air dry.

Footnote:
The old Zippo style lighters felt slightly slippery and needed wiping off after filling. If you put a few drops of lighter fluid on a piece of glass, allow it to evaporate then run your finger over the area, you should feel a slightly slippery surface. If the surface isn't slightly slippery the fluid probably isn't a good lubricant.
 
I don't know why people think naptha leaves a lubricating film. Naptha is composed of a large number of highly evaporative hydrocarbons. There isn't any non-evaporative hydrocarbons in naptha based on the stated composition. Lubrication is based mainly on viscosity and film thickness. Naptha doesn't leave a film that I can see. If you put lighter fluid on a clean piece of glass it looks like it evaporates 100%. No visible film. I know Jewell recommends naptha to clean their triggers , but it doesn't make sense. I have some extremely low vis synthetic oil (like water) that I am going to dilute with lighter fluid a clean my trigger. As far as rust you can put a good rust preventive oil from a shooter supply on the bolt and other parts other than the trigger after every time you take the gun hunting. In the winter or after rain it wouldn't hurt to take the stock off and clean and oil everything that might rust. Keep the rifle dry.
 
Jewell recommends Ronson lighter fluid - it does leave behind a light kerosene like residue.
 
Webster said:
I know Jewell recommends naptha to clean their triggers , but it doesn't make sense.

When you consider that dirt is a triggers worst enemy, not lack of lubrication, and oil attracts dirt, it makes perfect sense.
 
I understand what you are saying about dirt. Oil doesn't attract dirt, it sticks to it. I guess the real question is does a trigger mechanism need to have some minimal lube or is it best to not lube? I don't think lighter fluid proves any lube. I shoot off a bench or off a bipod in the field about 8 times a year. Not much chance of getting dust inside the trigger. Probably the most likely source of dirt is working the bolt back and forth above the trigger housing? I have never hunted in a dusty area. My main concern is safety and the rifle going off by accident. Everyone likes lighter fluid and it doesn't cause problems so keep using it. Most of the trigger parts are steel they will rust from condensation or rain. I think some triggers have stainless steel parts? How many people have a big game hunting rifle for 20 years without cleaning the trigger mechanism?
 
Webster said:
I guess the real question is does a trigger mechanism need to have some minimal lube or is it best to not lube? I don't think lighter fluid proves any lube.
How many people have a big game hunting rifle for 20 years without cleaning the trigger mechanism?
As I'm sure you know, lubricants such as oil etc, may become thicker or gummy during cold weather or when mixed with water at one time or another. I've had jewell triggers for quite a long time now and have been deer and 'yote hunting on some downright nasty cold days and the trigger is right on the money pull wise. Winter spring, summer or fall. And I have lighter fluid to run through them when needed.

As far as your comment on big game hunting rifles for 20years..... just because they get away with it, doesn't make it right. There are some that I know of that are using out of the same 5 boxes of Rem Corelokt ammo they got with the rifle 30 years ago, only shoot that rifle maybe a time or 2 a year, never sight in before going to the woods etc. Do I agree with that? No. But each to their own. WD
 
The Ronson part of the company that made lighter fluid was bought out in 2010 by Zippo. Zippo changed the fluid composition. They don't call it naptha anymore.
 
Automatic transmission fluid has friction modifiers in it for proper clutch characteristics. I don't think it's a good lube for anything but transmissions. I worked in R&D for a large lube co. for 20 years. If I use anything it's a very low vis synthetic oil that I have that isn't easily purchase by the public.
 
Marvel Mystery oil, Ballistol, Synthetic transmission fluid?

Where do you guys come up with this stuff???

DON'T USE OIL ON TRIGGERS!!!

It collects dirt, dust, powder crud... Jewell knows a lot more about their trigger, and it's needs than this garbage.
Keep them clean and dry.

I know it's not in your genetic lineage, but when in doubt, follow the instructions...
 
Sorry, I'm gonna use what the guys who make the triggers recommend.

Coleman camp fuel is still naphtha. Cheap and easy to find, 1 gallon at a time.

Also works great for removing sizing wax.

-nosualc
 
Webster said:
I don't know why people think naptha leaves a lubricating film. Naptha is composed of a large number of highly evaporative hydrocarbons. There isn't any non-evaporative hydrocarbons in naptha based on the stated composition. Lubrication is based mainly on viscosity and film thickness. Naptha doesn't leave a film that I can see. If you put lighter fluid on a clean piece of glass it looks like it evaporates 100%. No visible film. I know Jewell recommends naptha to clean their triggers , but it doesn't make sense. I have some extremely low vis synthetic oil (like water) that I am going to dilute with lighter fluid a clean my trigger. As far as rust you can put a good rust preventive oil from a shooter supply on the bolt and other parts other than the trigger after every time you take the gun hunting. In the winter or after rain it wouldn't hurt to take the stock off and clean and oil everything that might rust. Keep the rifle dry.

Low vis-water like--try Kroil and be done w/ it OR cut the Kroil w/ some of that residueless Ronsonol..50/50--- or 60/40!!
 
What is wrong with the Jewell trigger the way it comes out of the box - if someone has one that is so bad that it needs graphite (or mystery motor oil) than there is definitely something wrong with it.

Send it back for repairs!!
 
Thought the original post was lubricant for a Hawken muzzle loader trigger? M Pro 7 lube , it has a very low freeze point, -70 and displaces moisture. Used by the military. One of the reasons a trigger freezes, is moisture that has invaded the trigger mechanism. Keep the trigger area dry, great lube if you must use lubricant on your trigger. In the spring clean the trigger with Naptha or lighter fluid and then relube in the fall.
 
We can speculate and hope, or we can test and know.


My rule of conduct is to keep it clean by not getting it dirty, but I would, like you, be concerned if I were going on a hunt other than down the road a bit. Grease, when used with this in mind, is like a sticky fly trap, catching particulate before getting into the critical parts. Inclined to test it, I might pack the area with a synthetic grease, place the rifle in a refrigerator of some type to test, or I would either lubricate the parts with Boron Nitride, synthetic engine erl, or nothing.

Most of all, I try and keep in mind this is not a job but a pleasurable, recreational activity. Keep it simple.
 

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