Torx Screw in the bolt handle

[carlsbad]

What do you guys think of adding this screw (or 2)



I've never had a bolt handle come off (but I've seen a lot of guys hammering them at the range) so I've never put one of these on any of my bolts. But I get quite a few requests for them. I think a lot of the requests are word of mouth when guys see them in other guy's bolt and say "wow, that's cool."

It does look ok.

Just packaging this one up and thought I'd liven things up on Friday night. I'm a party animal.

--Jerry

 

[boltfluter]

I see no benefit at all. Actually may be a good way to stress the already weak silver solder joint.

Paul

 

[cahunter805]

Is that bolt handle timed and then the screw added?

 

[carlsbad]

Is that bolt handle timed and then the screw added?

Nope. guy didn't even want the bolt bushed. He provided a badger knob to install.

 

[Iowa Fox]

Don't think I'll be doing it to any of mine. Looks like a stress riser to me.

 

[jds holler]

Is it "tactical"? jd

 

[Eddie Harren]

Ask Dans40X, he'll let you know.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I think it would weaken the handle. Those castings can be weak or porous to start with. Personally I like the braze to fail. It prevents the guy with the hammer from doing serious damage, like galling the hell out of the lugs.

 

[carlsbad]

Don't think it hurts a thing and does add a little strength. It is mostly cosmetic.

I figured people here wouldn't find it attractive since it's "tacticool" but that doesn't take it from "not adding much" to "taking strength away". It is a well designed fastener and I'd even stamp it with my PE.

I liken it to an old car. I don't want to drive one but I enjoy seeing other people's. I enjoy doing the install. The difference between the countersink and the screw head is .002. the countersink is 90 degrees. It tightens up hard like a machine screw should.

--Jerry

 

[Bully]

Don't think it hurts a thing and does add a little strength. It is mostly cosmetic.

I figured people here wouldn't find it attractive since it's "tacticool" but that doesn't take it from "not adding much" to "taking strength away". It is a well designed fastener and I'd even stamp it with my PE.

I liken it to an old car. I don't want to drive one but I enjoy seeing other people's. I enjoy doing the install. The difference between the countersink and the screw head is .002. the countersink is 90 degrees. It tightens up hard like a machine screw should.

--Jerry

Honestly. I like it.
If I show it to a buddy, he’d want it.
Just a little something to set one rifle apart from another one.

 

[Ggmac]

Don't think it hurts a thing and does add a little strength. It is mostly cosmetic.

I figured people here wouldn't find it attractive since it's "tacticool" but that doesn't take it from "not adding much" to "taking strength away". It is a well designed fastener and I'd even stamp it with my PE.

I liken it to an old car. I don't want to drive one but I enjoy seeing other people's. I enjoy doing the install. The difference between the countersink and the screw head is .002. the countersink is 90 degrees. It tightens up hard like a machine screw should.

--Jerry

It would be nice if you could move it up and use as primary extraction adjustment, with a roller on the outside . Make different size rollers to increase or decrease primary extraction .
Just thinking if I wanted anything added I'd want it to do something .
I realize adding the screw foward would not be easily done without sacrificing strength.
My rifles are tools and I certainly don't flute , color , or add bling to those . I mean come on where does it end , chrome head stocks , flashing led lights , pinstripes, or even camo on the cross feed ? Maybe I'm just old but being different is one thing , but .....

 

[carlsbad]

ggmac,
I have often thought about adding something as you describe to adjust primary extraction and I've never come up with an idea I thought would work and didn't require more work than it was worth. Would be very nice.

I'm pretty much function over form myself. I do replace the bolt knob on every remington bolt i own. I might match the color of the knob to the stock since I'm replacing it anyway. I bush every firing pin I own (except those I buy from PTG already made with .062 pin). But don't do much bling for myself.

--Jerry

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I need one of those bolt knobs with the shell case in it- who makes those?

 

[JohnKielly]

Breaking off bolt handles is punishment for loading incorrectly.

 

[br1111]

for shooting no. for a hunt in another country or in battle yes. I had a friend bought a special order brand new custom shop 40x Remington in 308 . the first day at the range he shot it about 10 times no tight cases or any problem closing or opening bolt . he asked me if I wanted to shoot it ,I said yes. I went to close the bolt on a live round, with 2 fingers I might add and the bolt handle went
chingalingaling on the cement. he sent it and had it reattached. I know this is not the norm but, if its going to fail it will happen at the worst possible time. I saw the same thing with a bat at the range. it was not and had not been abused. there is a reason bat and kelbly tig welds them now. greg tannel offers 1 or 2 torx screws as well. I will bet you those m40 Remington sniper rifles ,the bolt is modified or aftermarket 1 piece bolts.

 

[Kings X]

I add that one (8-40) plus a 6-48 on top before I thread for the bolt knob.
The 8-40 is threaded thru the bolt handle and the bolt body acting as a anti- shear pin.

 

[carlsbad]

Just to be clear, I'm not advocating this as a needed upgrade. The brazed joint is very, very strong. It takes a hammer to break it unless it has been weakened by too much heat, such as improper cerakote heat treat or a poor attempt at resoldering to time the extraction.