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Todays the day..... Advice please

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I knew it would come one day... my gunsmiths finally convinced me to get into benchrest shooting. So Im in the process of trying to sale a few guns I dont need to put the cash towards a bench gun... they shoot 250-400 yard unlimited competitions so thats what im going to join in on.... by all means im a newby to this sport... ive always just shot more of a f class style long range for fun...

Question is... Im a newby... I know what they want me to build... just asking here to see what yall recommend too... 6BR, 6Dasher, 6ppc, 6.5x47 Lapua? Any others that I should consider? I have one in mind but im asking for your opinions....

Im looking at going with a stiller action, MBR type stock, and 1.25 inch straight pipe... all your input for me is appreciated.
 
2 to 3 hundred yrds 6ppc any beyond that 6br or brx dasher all are great.
I shoot 6br and love it . I also shoot 6br short range 14 twist love it to . Easy to load and tune
 
In our varmint league, the 10 twist 6 BRs rule the day. Folks are shooting the 90 grain Berger BT pushed with 4895 and similar.

I shoot the Betger 87 Hunting VLD pushed with 8208 XBR.

I'd look hard at the weight and balance. There are some good examples in Gun Of The Week of 6 BR, 6BRX and 6 Dasher 17 lb guns
 
re your choice of action: my first custom target gun was with the stiller predator single shot and i was hooked. you can pay more and get the usual but i'm not into SERIOUS competition. my last was a left port right bolt with a coned bolt and THIS ONE is my absolute favorite. bedded and pillared and it feeds the 22 br cases slick as can be and being right handed i can feed from the left and work the bolt . this one and my 6 BR are of course superbly accurate, while the 6x47 lapua is a litte harder to tune.
 
I ordered a Predator Action and I am still waiting for the final product, but for the caliber I have heard the 30br is easy or easier to keep in tune! I would think that would help a newbie!
 
Just a small suggestion would be build your rifle so it would be legal in lr br which would be under 17lbs. You never know you might wanna sell it or compete in it. This way you would less trouble selling it.
 
I suppose you are talking about Jonathan and Stick, based upon the action suggestion (or maybe even Trammel in Breckenridge) :P

It is a lot of fun and I enjoy just hanging out with the group that runs around N TX and shoots clays, poker chips, or anything else that we can break. You will be hard pressed to find a more fun group of folks to spend your weekend's with.

30br is an awesome round but I don't shoot it over 250y events and only when it isn't real windy. So while probably the most accurate gun I own it is limited on what I can use it for. 6ppc is going to have these same limitations from what I have read, never owned one first hand but the guys shooting them whine about the wind.

They are probably telling you dasher. There is a reason a improved 6br (dasher, brx, etc) is gaining popularity shooting these matches. They are fun to shoot, cheap to shoot and just flat out shooters.

I've decided I'm going to build a 22br to shoot the 90vld this off season. There is just something about that combo that has me interested. Bottom line is you can shoot anything and it will be fun, that I can promise you. Good luck and come out to Graham with us this weekend!

PS - you can't go wrong with anything built off a 6br case, in my opinion.
 
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... I know what they want me to build... just asking here to see what yall recommend too... [size=12pt]6BR[/size], 6Dasher, 6ppc, 6.5x47 Lapua?
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It's suitable for anything you could possibly want to do.
Might benefit from this read:
http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/6mmbr/
 
ducks-and-bucks said:
I knew it would come one day... my gunsmiths finally convinced me to get into benchrest shooting. So Im in the process of trying to sale a few guns I dont need to put the cash towards a bench gun... they shoot 250-400 yard unlimited competitions so thats what im going to join in on....

Well to start, this is not what I would call "Orthodox Benchrest." Majority of Benchrest match's are either point blank, or mid/long range, Meaning they shoot either 100-200 yards (Occasionally 300 yards.) or they shoot at 600 or 1000 yards, and the excepted rules very greatly depending on them. I would recommend you not to build a rifle to fit this clubs style of Benchrest, because if the match folds, or you want to go one and shoot other match's, you will be stuck possible needing a new gun.

A bit of advise, go to a match or two before you build a rifle, talk to others beside your gunsmiths, see how attendance has been. See if there is any other match's in the area, that you can shoot in, and what is the rules at them match's, and course of fire. Does these clubs match's have other classes such as a factory, or a factor modified? I would highly recommend you start out shooting one of these classes before jumping into a custom build gun.

On the gun your intending on building, to start right now is a bad time to build a new gun, and expect to have it done quickly, as most gun components are scarce. You may have your heart set on a Stiller action, but you may have a bit of a problem getting one. You did not mention which action, and I would highly recommend you get a action that is dual port, or drop port, if you are shooting Benchrest. The old saying is so true speed is king, and if the brass is not a flying, your dying. Stiller is one of the biggest custom action manufactures around, and Benchrest actions is his small potatoes. You may want to plan on a long wait for an action. Last time I talked to them they only made Viper actions once to two times a year.

My recommendation would be for you to find a used panda built for IBS/NBRSA light varmint. Either find one with the bolt head opened up for a 6BR, or have a smith open the PPC bolt head up for a 6BR. This way you can still shoot 6 PPC, and 6 BR, with just a barrel change. This would also allow you to shoot point blank competition, and long range as well. I know many shooters that do this, and it works.

The biggest problem you have with the mentioned items, is the stock is out of speck and too heavy for point blank Benchrest. You have no mention to what the weight limit is on the gun, but essentially your building a gun that could only fit this competition, and maybe 600 and 1000 yard Benchrest. See if there is any other clubs shooting 600 and 1000 yard Benchrest in your area, chances are there is not. Long range Benchrest is growing, but chances are you will have to drive a fair distance to compete in them.

On caliber recommendation I would say that a 6 PPC can be shot at 600 yards, we have done it, but the BC is not good on the bullets, and places you at a big disadvantage at distances over 300 yards. The 6 BR would be my recommendation, it is easy to tune, and works well at both yardages. A 6 Dasher is the round that is dominating 600 yard Benchrest, but the brass prep is a bit beyond what I would thing a person new to shooting would be capable of producing. I would not consider the 6.5x47 L, but I would consider the 6x47lapua the necked down version, it has plenty of horsepower, and brass is simple to make, it is simple to tune.

Good luck, I would say do you homework, and take advise you receive off the internet as for what you have paid for it. talk to people in the area, and see what they are using, and I would place more merit on that.
 
Before you spend a dime, go to a match or two of the type that you plan on competing in, and ask a lot of questions.
 

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