The Puzzification of the American Hunter!

[M14AMU]

I seldom watch hunting shows on TV but I did for a bit today prior to a ballgame coming on! Must be crossbow hunting week as there were three segments back to back. This guy is up a tree with a gizmo latched onto his stand; he's calling it a 'tree arm' but basically it's a mechanical rig that holds his crossbow while he shoots it! It's so-called totally moveable for any position and I'm thinking.....what in the world have we come to? Here's a grown man up a tree with a rig trying to shoot a deer that probably won't be over 30 yards distance and he has to have this contraption to hold his bow...which is also scope equipped! A little while later same guy is up a tree with his rifle in another same type contraption and I'm sitting just shaking my head because in the final analysis this nonsense all comes about because of the quest for $$$$$! I fully understand that some people are handicapped due to injuries and diseases and I'm proud that there are innovative ideas that can help them function but I'm fearful that many people are not being taught the proper things when it comes to good field positions and firearms usage. :-[ I guess possibly if I could talk with Daniel Boone and show him a rifle or two I have he'd think they were contraptions also but I can't bitch to Ole Dan'l! At one time we were a nation of riflemen; I fear we have become a nation of commercialized idiots!!

If this post offends anyone....please just take into consideration that I'm old, I'm tired....and I pee a lot!! :-\

 

[spencerhenry]

if anyone is offended, screw 'em.

most people that know i know, even the "tough" ones, are pussies. afraid of the dark, afraid of anything in the dark, afraid to be out in the wilderness during a late fall snow storm. maybe i am stupid, but the last time i spent a night in a snowstorm at 12,000 feet, i giggled to myself as i crawled into my sleeping bag.
i cannot get enough of class IV and V whitewater, looking at class VI now with 14 foot drops. the river is empty in the big flows, it is hard to find anyone willing to hit the big stuff.
i have hiked in 4 miles starting at over 10,000 feet to go hunt coyotes for the evening, temperatures near zero, clouds likely to sock in, snow likely to accumulate. big deal, go out and hunt.
most people i know cannot shoot, judge distance, or deal with an animal efficiently.

about 3 weeks ago, i gutted, skinned, quartered and loaded into the car a bull elk in under 54 minutes. i had to tie his antlers to a tree when i found him, cut his head off and the body took off down an avalanche chute. 800 vertical later he was at the road.


most people think about how hard it is going to be and give up before they start!

 

[jonbearman]

I don't think the average hunter would bother spending the money for all these new bs contraptions. You also have to realize the sponsers of these shows are advertising these pieces of junk so joe dumbo can buy them. I used to get mocked by other archers because I hunted with a traditional recurve or log bow when I could hunt with a compound that could shoot over a 100 fps than my recurve. I harvested many a whitetail with my various recurves I have shot. If you watch the shows now they are for the most part on fenced in properties and advertising abounds. Some shows are decent but some are ridiculous. To each his own but if to much mechanical stuff is used you might as well have a laser aiming device that runs a robot to make the shot.

 

[joshb]

It's a darn shame that we have a generation of gadget heads coming up. Lord help em, if they misplace their cell phone, and can't use the "ballistic app" for a shot. While I was distracted, I became an "Old Guy". I have always believed that an Old Guys duty was to remember the old ways, and to preach them any chance we have. Today's commercial sector is always pushing the "new thing". All I need, is a straight shooting gun, and a sharp knife.........."and this thermos" ............Preach on, RMulhern, damn the torpedoes!!! I'm with ya.

 

[mshelton]

if anyone is offended, screw 'em.

most people that know i know, even the "tough" ones, are pussies. afraid of the dark, afraid of anything in the dark, afraid to be out in the wilderness during a late fall snow storm. maybe i am stupid, but the last time i spent a night in a snowstorm at 12,000 feet, i giggled to myself as i crawled into my sleeping bag.
i cannot get enough of class IV and V whitewater, looking at class VI now with 14 foot drops. the river is empty in the big flows, it is hard to find anyone willing to hit the big stuff.
i have hiked in 4 miles starting at over 10,000 feet to go hunt coyotes for the evening, temperatures near zero, clouds likely to sock in, snow likely to accumulate. big deal, go out and hunt.
most people i know cannot shoot, judge distance, or deal with an animal efficiently.

about 3 weeks ago, i gutted, skinned, quartered and loaded into the car a bull elk in under 54 minutes. i had to tie his antlers to a tree when i found him, cut his head off and the body took off down an avalanche chute. 800 vertical later he was at the road.


most people think about how hard it is going to be and give up before they start!

You forgot to add uphill both ways

and running the whitewater in a C1

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Relax guys, those shows are strictly advertising. And spencerhenry has enough bravado to cover the rest of us.

 

[jghoghunter]

Relax guys, those shows are strictly advertising. And spencerhenry has enough bravado to cover the rest of us.

+1

 

[nosualc]

TV shows cost money to produce and to air. A lot of money.

Popular television shows can generate enough ad revenue to pay the bills. Outdoors shows are (in the big picture) by and large, not hugely popular and need sponsors.

The better outdoors shows can attract sponsors with truly valuable products which can be showcased in legitimate ways.

The worst of them devolve into 30 minute infomercials, often showcasing laughably marginal products/sponsors.

It's how the game is played.

-nosualc

 

[Rick in Oregon]

I seldom watch hunting shows on TV but I did for a bit today prior to a ballgame coming on! Must be crossbow hunting week as there were three segments back to back. This guy is up a tree with a gizmo latched onto his stand; he's calling it a 'tree arm' but basically it's a mechanical rig that holds his crossbow while he shoots it! It's so-called totally moveable for any position and I'm thinking.....what in the world have we come to? Here's a grown man up a tree with a rig trying to shoot a deer that probably won't be over 30 yards distance and he has to have this contraption to hold his bow...which is also scope equipped! A little while later same guy is up a tree with his rifle in another same type contraption and I'm sitting just shaking my head because in the final analysis this nonsense all comes about because of the quest for $$$$$! I fully understand that some people are handicapped due to injuries and diseases and I'm proud that there are innovative ideas that can help them function but I'm fearful that many people are not being taught the proper things when it comes to good field positions and firearms usage. :-[ I guess possibly if I could talk with Daniel Boone and show him a rifle or two I have he'd think they were contraptions also but I can't bitch to Ole Dan'l! At one time we were a nation of riflemen; I fear we have become a nation of commercialized idiots!!

If this post offends anyone....please just take into consideration that I'm old, I'm tired....and I pee a lot!! :-\

Offended? H3ll, I could not agree more! What I see in the field now reminds me of a bunch of wussies.

(Oh, I'm old, tired and pee a lot too.)

 

[TheOtherZilla]

If you haven't figured it out yet these so called "hunting shows" are an extended advertisement for someone's stuff they want you to buy.. I'd say the majority are faked up and scripted.

 

[xswanted]

I'm not old, I pee regularly and I own some "gadgets".........

I'm also not the least bit offended by anything written here. I've put lots of time in learning how to hunt, without 'gadgets' and I love being away from groups of people, on my own out killing coyotes.

I'm also sick of the a lot of the crap out there nowadays. Its sickening. I've watched more kids...I'm 32.....shoot their deer from a heated box stand than I care to admit. I do have to admit, it'd be a comfortable way to hunt, but good lord....isn't being outside and being cold part of the experience??

I don't watch hunting shows anymore, most of the stuff on there is fake and what is real I'll never be able to afford to hunt anyway. So what did I do??? My friends and I started making our own DVD's. Real hunting.....shoooting does, missing stuff, having fun and so on and so forth.....the best part? Watching them brings back the fun from each hunt.

Hopefully at some point the score of an animal will once again be overshadowed by the hunt of said animal.

 

[Hydenseek]

On top of all this trophy hunting has ruined deer hunting and what deer huntings all about..... Fun!

 

[M14AMU]

I'm not old, I pee regularly and I own some "gadgets".........

I'm also not the least bit offended by anything written here. I've put lots of time in learning how to hunt, without 'gadgets' and I love being away from groups of people, on my own out killing coyotes.

I'm also sick of the a lot of the crap out there nowadays. Its sickening. I've watched more kids...I'm 32.....shoot their deer from a heated box stand than I care to admit. I do have to admit, it'd be a comfortable way to hunt, but good lord....isn't being outside and being cold part of the experience??

I don't watch hunting shows anymore, most of the stuff on there is fake and what is real I'll never be able to afford to hunt anyway. So what did I do??? My friends and I started making our own DVD's. Real hunting.....shoooting does, missing stuff, having fun and so on and so forth.....the best part? Watching them brings back the fun from each hunt.

Hopefully at some point the score of an animal will once again be overshadowed by the hunt of said animal.

In 1980 at age 40 I damn nigh froze to death atop a mountain in Idaho elk hunting! Had hypothermia and only through the commonsense of two fellows I was hunting with I survived. They carried me down the mountain on their backs and I stayed in the hospital in Idaho Falls for 5 days. My body at age 74 now cannot tolerate cold the way it could earlier in life and I now hunt out of a box stand with a heater....and enjoy the hell out of it! I bow hunted for 30 years standing on a platform up a tree and froze my arse off many a day but now....those days are history!

hydenseek

You're absolutely right about trophy hunting having ruined deer hunting. A young kid can't go out now and shoot a spike or 3 pt. buck and feel good because they've been exposed to all the BS coming from so-called hunting shows! I've killed probably everything on hoof buck-wise when a kid and was damn proud of it and all the meat went into the family freezer! Never eaten a set of horns yet!!

 

[Barlow]

Piles of corn in the woods have ruined our deer hunting in Wisconsin. The last generation don't know any other way. JMO Barlow

 

[Raythemanroe]

When I hear crossbow, I think someone wants to go out in bow season but can't shoot a bow..





Ray

 

[hogpatrol]

I use a camo, 4WD Hoveround to get to my heated tree stand and since it's 30' off the ground, I have a battery powered chair lift to get me to the top. I hunt deer with my air operated cocking device crossbow with infrared scope, shooting mechanical broadheads. In the unlikely event I do get a deer, I grab the smartphone, call for my assistant to get the John Deere to scoop him up and put him in the bed of my air conditioned, satellite radio, GPS, OnStar, rear view camera, electric heated seat, winch equipped, auto trans, computer operated diesel 4WD truck. No sense in making things difficult.

 

[people]

I use a camo, 4WD Hoveround to get to my heated tree stand and since it's 30' off the ground, I have a battery powered chair lift to get me to the top. I hunt deer with my air operated cocking device crossbow with infrared scope, shooting mechanical broadheads. In the unlikely event I do get a deer, I grab the smartphone, call for my assistant to get the John Deere to scoop him up and put him in the bed of my air conditioned, satellite radio, GPS, OnStar, rear view camera, electric heated seat, winch equipped, auto trans, computer operated diesel 4WD truck. No sense in making things difficult.

This is the best thing I have read all day! Please say your camo is a camo three piece suit. No reason to look bad while hunting. Granted I like looking like a clump of grass but that is just me.

 

[40X Guy]

I use a camo, 4WD Hoveround to get to my heated tree stand and since it's 30' off the ground, I have a battery powered chair lift to get me to the top. I hunt deer with my air operated cocking device crossbow with infrared scope, shooting mechanical broadheads. In the unlikely event I do get a deer, I grab the smartphone, call for my assistant to get the John Deere to scoop him up and put him in the bed of my air conditioned, satellite radio, GPS, OnStar, rear view camera, electric heated seat, winch equipped, auto trans, computer operated diesel 4WD truck. No sense in making things difficult.

Hogpatrol, that rules!

Frank