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The price of barrels

Just got an invoice from a long time supplier of barrels and was amazed at what I saw. The price of $366 was for a SS top of the line barrel but it was not from Krieger or Brux or any of the other "top" manufacturers. A Brux or Krieger actually costs less!! What's going on?
 
I guess folks are willing to pay the premium, just like they are on bbls. With some of the games becoming "equipment races", or at least in some folks minds, this is what happens. Just another reason why I prefer sling shooting, as I can go out with a budget friendly Wilson bbl and run with any bbl out there and not miss a beat, or an X, for that matter. Its my little way of stick it to the man! :-)

John
 
I don't really care to much as during the entire time I have been buying barrels (6years) the price has either not changed at all or changed so little I can't even notice. When everything else is going up in price the makers manage to keep prices down. That is why I am ordering a couple special barrels for my rifles in the next month or so before something changes.
 
Just ordered another Hart, and the price has remained the same that it was 3 years ago: $315, shipping included. Delivery in 12 weeks ( it's been my experience they will "over-estimate" delivery time).

Have bought more than my share of Hart's & never got a bad one yet.
 
I think we're seeing the first barrel maker blink (raise prices). Everything else in the shooting world has gone up,, maybe not seen on the retail side, but, sure enough seen on the whole sale side! Things can only 'bend' so far. Retail prices will go up. No doubt about it. Been grocery shoppin' lately? Stopped to fill up with gas/diesel? How about paying those 'new' insurance premiums, too. Bought any steel of lumber, lately? How about tools, cutting or hand tools? Repair parts for anything? (cooling fan on the Haas mill died,,,, $160 later and the time to install it. Start stop switch for the surface grinder $92 + the time to install. True skilled labor that actually cares about their work?)
 
Oh well! Anyway, when the price on the internet is one thing and what you get billed is something else I'll always question it. Looks like I need to "lay in" some inventory for my own needs over the next couple of years. Only a few years left before I have to take up fishing :(
 
Blair:

I feel your pain. Tuesday I ordered 21 barrels. Wednesday I ordered 3 more. I have about 14 barrels previously ordered in the system.
Nat Lambeth
 
clowdis said:
Just got an invoice from a long time supplier of barrels and was amazed at what I saw. The price of $366 was for a SS top of the line barrel but it was not from Krieger or Brux or any of the other "top" manufacturers. A Brux or Krieger actually costs less!! What's going on?

Captialism in action I'd surmise. If customers are ready and willing to pay that price the supplier has every incentive to charge it. Of course that raises the bar for others too, on both sides of the counter.

Whether it's 'sustainable' is to be determined. Was this an off-the-rack item or something you'd ordered to customized specs with the expected lead time? Rush charges used to be routine in the business I was in to get a faster turnaround when necessary.

Sure hope that pipe's a hummer at that price!
 
clowdis,

Try just one Green Mountain barrel blank and see how it shoots. I have been using them for some AR builds for about the last 4 months unless another barrel brand is requested and they shoot as well as any Kreiger or Bartlein that I have installed.
I just built a few 6mm Hagars for some folks and they are reportedly getting half moa groups from a 1:10" SS bbl. The barrel life is expected to be about as much as any other button barrel and at less than half the cost, trying just one isn't a big investment.

JS
 
Off the rack item.

John,
Might try a Green Mountain. This was from my "go to" supplier for barrels that shot good but didn't cost an arm and leg. Been using them for 40 years. It is what it is but I have to agree that it opens the door for suppliers like Krieger/Brux/Hart to raise their prices to $400 or more if the price sticks.
 
And it opens the door for new competitors in the game as well. Its all about supply and demand and the good old capitalistic system. We are seeing that in the bullet market right now....green and yellow raised prices, so black/tan is stepping in with good bullets at a lot less cost. Might not impact the "equipment race games" but for stuff like HP, where its ability to hold over 1/4moa accuracy, they are making inroads.

Getting dang hard to justify $500 bbls, any way you slice it....same with 50 cent bullets!
 
jscandale said:
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I just built a few 6mm Hagars for some folks and they are reportedly getting half moa groups from a 1:10" SS bbl.

Bolt guns I assume? 1:10's not quite what's been working for spaceguns.

How much brass you buy? I'll be testing my first Hornady brass loads maybe tomorrow at Lodi. Stay tuned....
 
I think you should whine about the Fed printing dollars quicker than the eye can see! Every dollar printed makes those already in circulation worth less! Think about it. Barrel makers (or anyone who makes anything) want to be able to sell their products at a price that the buyer can afford, and still make a profit. They wouldn't be raising prices if the dollar was still worth what it used to be.
 
Shortgrass, you have nailed it on the head. The national debt will have went up 50% in 4 years of our glorious leader. That is economics 101.
 
spclark said:
jscandale said:
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I just built a few 6mm Hagars for some folks and they are reportedly getting half moa groups from a 1:10" SS bbl.

Bolt guns I assume? 1:10's not quite what's been working for spaceguns.

How much brass you buy? I'll be testing my first Hornady brass loads maybe tomorrow at Lodi. Stay tuned....
Not bolt guns, ARs. They are varmint uppers intended for use with 95 gr and lighter bullets. Also have a tactical upper built in 6 Hagar for a customer n 1:10. So far, they are capable of 1/2 moa accuracy just as the barrels that cost 3 times as much...go figure.

JS
 
Manufacturers of all kinds are very attentive to an economic recovery. If and when it occurs, prices of everything will "shoot" up.
 
Steel prices are raising havic with barrel makers along with energy costs.
I know our local mill has raised prices for the stainless 413R so high that a major maker has gone someplace else for his steel.
Taxes insurance labor all have their toll along with New owners.
 
tenring said:
Manufacturers of all kinds are very attentive to an economic recovery. If and when it occurs, prices of everything will "shoot" up.
+1 ,,,,,,, and it'll happen sooner than we think! and they'll rise further than we think they should! Wages aren't raising, if they are, not much. It's called inflation!
 
While cleaning out the shed I ran across a FLAIGS price sheet from 1972.A Douglas Premium grade barrel was $29.50.A MK 10 action was 79.50 .This is for information only as a side note .I worked for GM and Bought a fully loaded Blazer $6500.
 
In Sept. 1963 I bought a new '63 Corvette split window coupe. 327/340 engine, 4 speed, 4.56 rear end. $4936.00. Amoco premium 101 octane ( required for the 11.5 compression) cost .30 a gallon.

But, my monthly income, before taxes was $800.
 

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