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The Demise of American Eagle 50g Tipped Varmint

American Eagle 50g Tipped Varmint ammo (223 Rem), p/n AE223GTV has been the best shooting off-the-shelf ammo I've used in my Savage Model 12BVSS. Although I prefer to roll my own, I keep this as a reference load in case I'm having trouble developing a load and want to eliminate the gun as the source. It has shot 3 and 5 shot groups in the zeros at 100 yds, although often prone to flyers in many 5 shot groups, never opening up to more than 1/2 moa.

Recently, however it has become extremely scarce, so I put a call into Federal to get some answers.

First off, this ammo never appeared on Federal's website. Information and specifications were not to be found in years past all the while being very affordable and available for a good while. It also performed amazingly well. Intrigued, I contacted Federal several years ago to get a spec sheet, and my efforts were quickly rewarded with a spec sheet arriving a few days later, which if I could put my hands on would publish here. But here is what I remember.

50g projectile made by Hornaday (V-Max)
CCI-41 magnum primer
Lake City brass with asphalt sealant in the neck.
Ball Powder, probably H335

According to a call I got from Federal yesterday, this ammo has been discontinued. It was previously made under contract with the Lake City plant, but is being re-engineered to use an in-house bullet like the V-Max.

They hope to get it to shoot as well and the old ammo.

No timeline on the availability as of yet.

I still have several untouched boxes on hand, but will covet those until the new stuff hits the shelves.
 
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i have an unopened box of 500 that will hopefully last me until i can get another dedicated varmint rig built. bought mine several years ago when psa had them on sale for like $6.something per box. and yes, it shoots extremely well for me, as well. next closest is the fiocchi 50 vmax loads. those seem about the same in my gun.
 
I have a 1:14 twist hart barrel on a Remington 700 and it loves the 40 grain Fiochi. This is the only rifle I have that I don't hand load for, no reason too, it shoots those Fiochi 40 grainers lights out. So I know what you mean, when you find a factory loaded ammo that cheap and it shoots that good why spend the time for the same results.

Darrin
 
If you know all of the details then why not reload your own and duplicate it. The components are available still. You could even pull a bullet and weigh the powder to find out the charge weight. Unless you think the asphalt sealer is the special sauce.
 
Yep, did that. Powder load varied quite a bit, and I wan't sure (back then) about what powder was used. Recently I did try H335 and the 53g V-Max with good results, but temp sensitive in this dang 100 Texas heat.

If I simply reset the bullet in the original ammo to a new depth, or even back to original, it totally ruined the ammo's ability to group tight.

My conclusion was the asphalt was the secret sauce.

Incidentally, the spec sheet stated it was NOT sealed ammo. Hmmmmmmm
 
That's interesting. Wished I could find a factory load that shot well. I've had mediocre results at best. But in all honesty I haven't shot very much factory stuff, mostly in my AR rifles. Thanks for your post, I like it when someone disassembles a factory round and records there finds. Just curious what the big ammo manufactures are using I guess.
 
American Eagle 50g Tipped Varmint ammo (223 Rem), p/n AE223GTV has been the best shooting off-the-shelf ammo I've used in my Savage Model 12BVSS.

It is...was...Every Savage 223 I have shot this stuff really well. Now using Frontier 55gr Match. This is made by LC for Hornady. Good but not near as good as the 50gr Tipped.
 
Probably right as I believe the issue is indeed the Hornaday V-max bullet that was used. They (American Eagle and Vista Outdoor) will go in-house with the bullet (Speer?) and re-develop the cartridge. I was told they will keep the tipped design, as opposed to a FMJ or HP, but that seems to mean they (Speer) will have to develop a new bullet similar to the V-Max. Could take a while.
 
A year has gone by, but I thought I'd mention that I have a 25-box case of this ammo that I'm not going to use... if anyone is interested, PM me.

Wow, I've been a member here since 2012 -- first post! :-)
 
A year has gone by, but I thought I'd mention that I have a 25-box case of this ammo that I'm not going to use... if anyone is interested, PM me.

Wow, I've been a member here since 2012 -- first post! :)
As you’re “new”...
This is a discussion page. Sales posts go in the classifieds section. Just so ya don’t get spanked.
 

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