suppressors

[dbaird]

I recently had a rifle and suppressor painted. When they painted the suppressor they painted over the serial number-is this legal or do I need to remove the paint over the serial number? I have got confliction advice from class ll dealers.

 

[Forum Boss]

Here is the ATF Suppressor FAQ page:

Q: What part of a silencer must be marked?
The silencer must be marked in accordance with 27 C.F.R. §§ 478.92 and 479.102. The regulations require that the markings be conspicuous and legible, meaning that the markings may be placed on any external part, such as the outer tube or end cap.

ATF strongly recommends that manufacturers place all required markings on the outer tube of the silencer, as this is the accepted industry standard. Moreover, this practice eliminates the need to remark in the event an end cap bearing the markings is damaged and requires replacement.

Q: May a Federal Firearms Licensee repair a silencer by replacing worn or damaged components?

A person who is licensed under the Gun Control Act (GCA) to manufacture firearms and who has paid the special (occupational) tax to manufacture National Firearms Act (NFA) firearms may replace a component part or parts of a silencer. Repairs may not be done if they result in removal, obliteration, or alteration of the serial number, as this would violate 18 U.S.C. § 922(k). If a silencer part bearing the serial number, other than the outer tube, must be replaced, the new part must be marked with the same serial number as the replacement part.

LINK: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-silencers.html

You may also wish to consult an attorney specializing in firearms.

 

[GSRswapandslow]

the serial should be engraved, if you can still read the serial with the paint over it...you are fine. If you feel it's readable, but TOO HARD to read...just clean the paint from the engraving so it shows through. Do NOT alter the serial number, obviously, and you'll be fine. People refinish suppressors ALL the time.

 

[Liberty Suppressors]

the serial should be engraved, if you can still read the serial with the paint over it...you are fine. If you feel it's readable, but TOO HARD to read...just clean the paint from the engraving so it shows through. Do NOT alter the serial number, obviously, and you'll be fine. People refinish suppressors ALL the time.

+1 as long as it is readable you will be fine.

 

[Bradley Walker]

Can you make your own silencers for personal use?

 

[bricktop]

Can you make your own silencers for personal use?

You can, but you still have to do all the paperwork and pay the tax - before you start.

 

[GSRswapandslow]

you can, you have to fill out a form 1 and wait for your stamp to get back BEFORE you start building ANYTHING though. NO BAFFLES, NO TUBES, NO END CAPS before your stamp. You also can't CHANGE your plans after submitting your form. You can't build EXTRA parts for it either (like multiple baffle types)

 

[Bradley Walker]

you can, you have to fill out a form 1 and wait for your stamp to get back BEFORE you start building ANYTHING though. NO BAFFLES, NO TUBES, NO END CAPS before your stamp. You also can't CHANGE your plans after submitting your form. You can't build EXTRA parts for it either (like multiple baffle types)

Who do you submit your paper work too?

 

[mnshortdraw]

Who do you submit your paper work too?
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You have to submit it to the BATFE. There are several suppressor forums that have discussions on the steps required. It's a $200 tax, usually a local law enforcement signature, and the required paperwork with photos and fingerprints. Be prepared for a 6 month+ wait time.

 

[hotrodlouie]

If you want a suppressor without all the paper work hassle read this article on a Gun Trust. My son-in-law's friend just got one and uses one on his rifle. Read link
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/04/jim-barrett/idea-of-the-day-setting-up-an-nfa-gun-trust/

 

[ratguner]

Check recent or pending ATF rules for NFA items.
I think using a trust is or will be eliminated.

 

[GSRswapandslow]

If you want a suppressor without all the paper work hassle read this article on a Gun Trust. My son-in-law's friend just got one and uses one on his rifle. Read link
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/04/jim-barrett/idea-of-the-day-setting-up-an-nfa-gun-trust/

i'm not sure what you're getting at...but with a trust you STILL have to do 90% of the same documentation and you actually have to send in MORE to the BATFE. The only things you don't have to mess with are the 2"x2" pictures, the sheriff/CLEO signature, and the FBI finger print cards. You still have to fill out the front of hte form 4 with a trust.

 

[Liberty Suppressors]

A NFA Trust has the added value of allowing multiple users, if written correctly.

 

[rwk]

Any one know how to make one of these things.

 

[germanlongbow]

I live in Wisconsin. I used a lawyer who is affluent in laws and regulations for Wisconsin and the BATF. He provided all the necessary paperwork, I just had to fill in the blanks and send back. Took a couple of months from start to finish and only cost me a $150.00. Nice part is my wife and four daughters are listed on the forms. So even if I'm not around they can still access and shoot with the cans. Nice benefit of NFA Trust over standard way of obtaining can. I can give you name of Lawyer I used if you want. Great guy not to mention he is an avid gun enthusiast to boot. Scott

 

[P1ZombieKiller]

A NFA Trust has the added value of allowing multiple users, if written correctly.

And this is a great idea if you have children that like to shoot. Very easy to pass down when you can no longer shoot.